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Beery · 09-27-05, 10:46 AM

Only for single missions? That sucks!

Anyway, when I want to surrender, I surface and immediately save the game. Then I count how many men are still alive at that point. Then I restart the game, and for every second after that that the boat lasts, one man survives. I then edit the campaign files to reflect the final result.

AlanSmithee · 09-27-05, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by U-104

That's for single missions.

I'm so disappointed. I'd been playing all along like I had the option to surrender. Looks like I'll have to use something like Beery's method.

U-104 · 09-27-05, 02:15 PM

Not to mention the fact that with 1.4 you don't have the option to end the patrol when enemies are around.

turbidite · 09-27-05, 03:23 PM

And you don't even get a newspaper frontpage when you dissapear, waddaya mean I'm not enough of an ace

, what about my "gallant" crew then ?

Wolfram · 09-27-05, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalach

Really?
I wonder if the modders could make it so you escape the prison camp a few years later and begin your quest for revenge

I second that one. Reminds me of RedBaron, forced down in enemy territory and a chance you escape the POW camp - had a clip of guy goin' over the wire.

AlanSmithee · 09-27-05, 06:59 PM

Beery, is there any way that SH3 Commander could address this? Perhaps after having "surrendered" in-game (as you describe above) you could select to "surrender" in SH3 Commander, which would end your career and update your career record, pehaps with some text on what happened to you after your surrender. You still wouldn't be able to surrender in-game, but this would at least allow for some closure to a career.

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Originally Posted by Wolfram

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Originally Posted by Kalach

Really?
I wonder if the modders could make it so you escape the prison camp a few years later and begin your quest for revenge

I second that one. Reminds me of RedBaron, forced down in enemy territory and a chance you escape the POW camp - had a clip of guy goin' over the wire.

Escape, try to flee to Mexico, sounds great! Of course, someone will then demand a "Real POW" mod, where all you do is agricultual labor in Kentucky for the duration of the war.

Beery · 09-27-05, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfram

I second that one. Reminds me of RedBaron, forced down in enemy territory and a chance you escape the POW camp - had a clip of guy goin' over the wire.

Wow! That brings back memories. There was also the prison image where your guy actually became more unkempt as the years in prison went by. That was Red Baron 1 - must be almost 15 years ago since that game came out. RB2/3D never had the same level of post-career follow-through.

Beery · 09-27-05, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AlanSmithee

Beery, is there any way that SH3 Commander could address this? Perhaps after having "surrendered" in-game (as you describe above) you could select to "surrender" in SH3 Commander, which would end your career and update your career record, pehaps with some text on what happened to you after your surrender. You still wouldn't be able to surrender in-game, but this would at least allow for some closure to a career.

Good idea. I'll see if anything can be done.

Wolfram · 09-27-05, 07:10 PM

Beery

Yes sir I am one of those old and twisted RB guys and to confess yours was the very first UOP I installed in RB - TY still have those mods too

Think we can use those video clips somehow?

BTW you recall the bad crash clip/picture of the severe wounded pilot - end of many a great careers for me.

Beery · 09-27-05, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfram

...BTW you recall the bad crash clip/picture of the severe wounded pilot - end of many a great careers for me.

Now you mention it I do remember. Those career endings were great! I must admit Red Baron was the inspiration for much of my input into SH3 Commander. I loved the fact that Red Baron didn't merely seek to simulate the air combat aspect. The extra non-combat details (like the capture, escape, hospital, the 'war is over' screen, and the gravestone screen) were what made the game seem more real for me. SH3 Commander's post-career and post-war details are derived (at least in part) from Red Baron's example. For me it makes my commander into a real person, and not just a game avatar.

Sheppard · 09-27-05, 11:18 PM

Beery, is there any possibility of SH3 Commander becoming part of
the official add-on? I'd use SH3 commander more, but I don't like
having to exit SH3, and then reload it to get full advantage of
SH3 Commander's features; so having it become part of the game
would be a god-send for me.

Beery · 09-28-05, 12:48 AM

I doubt it would be included in an official add-on, but similar things have happened (Ubisoft incorporated a similar config tool for IL-2 FB). I'm not even sure there's going to be an add-on, but I'll talk to Jaesen about talking to Ubisoft.

Wolfram · 09-28-05, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Beery

For me it makes my commander into a real person, and not just a game avatar.

same here...

Kpt. Lehmann · 09-28-05, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Beery

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Originally Posted by Wolfram

I second that one. Reminds me of RedBaron, forced down in enemy territory and a chance you escape the POW camp - had a clip of guy goin' over the wire.

Wow! That brings back memories. There was also the prison image where your guy actually became more unkempt as the years in prison went by. That was Red Baron 1 - must be almost 15 years ago since that game came out. RB2/3D never had the same level of post-career follow-through.

I'll drink to that! (coffee)

Remember the ZEPPELINS????

Kpt. Lehmann · 09-28-05, 10:15 AM

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My "other job" flying with the fine men of JASTA 5!

as "Fahnrich Klaus Lehmann"

09-27-05, 10:46 AM	#16
Beery Admiral Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Silver Spring, MD, USA (but still a Yorkshireman at heart - tha can allus tell a Yorkshireman...) Posts: 2,497 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Only for single missions? That sucks! Anyway, when I want to surrender, I surface and immediately save the game. Then I count how many men are still alive at that point. Then I restart the game, and for every second after that that the boat lasts, one man survives. I then edit the campaign files to reflect the final result. __________________ "More mysterious. Yeah. I'll just try to think, 'Where the hell's the whiskey?'" - Bob Harris, Lost in Translation. "Anyrooad up, ah'll si thi" - Missen.

09-27-05, 02:15 PM	#18
U-104 Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: United States Posts: 797 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 0	Not to mention the fact that with 1.4 you don't have the option to end the patrol when enemies are around. __________________ My heart is steadfast, O God. I will sing and make music with all my soul. Ps. 108:1 Survival of the fittest does not explain arrival of the fittest. we live in a single spoken sentence.. "God said, let there be"

09-28-05, 12:48 AM	#27
Beery Admiral Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Silver Spring, MD, USA (but still a Yorkshireman at heart - tha can allus tell a Yorkshireman...) Posts: 2,497 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I doubt it would be included in an official add-on, but similar things have happened (Ubisoft incorporated a similar config tool for IL-2 FB). I'm not even sure there's going to be an add-on, but I'll talk to Jaesen about talking to Ubisoft. __________________ "More mysterious. Yeah. I'll just try to think, 'Where the hell's the whiskey?'" - Bob Harris, Lost in Translation. "Anyrooad up, ah'll si thi" - Missen.

09-28-05, 10:15 AM	#30
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,993 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	http://img274.imageshack.us/my.php?i...01448338os.jpg My "other job" flying with the fine men of JASTA 5! as "Fahnrich Klaus Lehmann" __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

09-27-05, 03:23 PM	#19
turbidite Seaman Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 42 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	And you don't even get a newspaper frontpage when you dissapear, waddaya mean I'm not enough of an ace , what about my "gallant" crew then ?

09-27-05, 07:10 PM	#24
Wolfram Weps Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: periscope depth Posts: 354 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Beery Yes sir I am one of those old and twisted RB guys and to confess yours was the very first UOP I installed in RB - TY still have those mods too Think we can use those video clips somehow? BTW you recall the bad crash clip/picture of the severe wounded pilot - end of many a great careers for me.

09-27-05, 11:18 PM	#26
Sheppard Captain of the Nautilus Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 146 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 0	Beery, is there any possibility of SH3 Commander becoming part of the official add-on? I'd use SH3 commander more, but I don't like having to exit SH3, and then reload it to get full advantage of SH3 Commander's features; so having it become part of the game would be a god-send for me.