Earth's expiration date and the humans expiration day

mapuc · 07-12-17, 07:39 PM

Some weeks ago I saw on a science program. The Univers In this episode they had asked the science people, who has the space as their work area. what they thought could be the end of the world and/or Earth

The program made me think/wonder

It's no doubt that our planet and the people that lives on it has an expiration date.

I'm pretty sure the expiration date for the human kind is close than Earth expiration date.

I also think it's more likely that we the human kind, will erase us self from the surface than some earth-killer asteroid would hit us.

When it comes to our Mother Earth I don't know what is most highly to happen a planet almost the size of Earth hit us or the Sun expand and swallow Earth ?

No I'm absolutely not worried. If you may wonder or think so.

Markus

Reece · 07-12-17, 08:10 PM

Only God knows that date!!

August · 07-12-17, 08:25 PM

I think it's a pretty safe bet that none of us will live to see the end of either the earth or the human race.

Gargamel · 07-12-17, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by August

I think it's a pretty safe bet that none of us will live to see the end of either the earth or the human race.

Short of a planet splitting planetoid (yeah, asteroid is just too small here) impact, I'm sure we won't witness it. The rocky body we know as Earth will continue to orbit the Sun, for about another 4 billions years (I believe that's the number) until the Sun turns into a red giant and swallows it whole.

End of the Human Race is another matter. The right idiot in control of a nuclear arsenal has a decent shot of wiping us out, but probably not completely. But most likely, if we do see a species ending event, it will be from some pandemic that we can't stop. Or again, from an impactor from space.

But yet, it's kinda weird that one of the biggest natural disasters we could ever face, an impact from an asteroid or the like, is the only natural disaster we can both predict with adequate lead time and we can prevent, that we aren't spending more effort to protect ourselves.

https://b612foundation.org/ ftw

Jimbuna · 07-13-17, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by August

I think it's a pretty safe bet that none of us will live to see the end of either the earth or the human race.

Agreed

Moonlight · 07-13-17, 06:57 AM

Earth’s Next Major Extinction Event Has Already Started
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entr...-1207021200_uk

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Researchers did not state how long it predicted the human race to survive, but said there was scope to “address the decay of biodiversity.”

It looks as if the future of mankind could be in the balance if this report is true, its not going to be the quick extinction like the dinosaurs went through but a much slower lingering extinction, whoever termed the phrase that "Greed is Good" doesn't give a monkeys toss about anyone else but themselves.

Rockin Robbins · 07-13-17, 08:03 AM

I know. Let's pick 27,000 species out the millions of species on earth. We'll pick them arbitrarily to ensure bias, make grand assumptions about past extinction rates, as if we knew at any given time how many species exist (heck, we can't even agree on what a species IS!!) and then make a prediction of doom. Shades of 1950s science fiction movies, but for a lot more money.

Doom sells. What people buy we will get more of. People are absolute SUCKERS for predictions of doom, especially THEIR doom. Watch for more more and darker doom scenarios, invented from whole cloth, sold to you by news media which has lost its compass and doesn't know what news is any more.

Cybermat47 · 07-13-17, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonlight

Earth’s Next Major Extinction Event Has Already Started
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entr...-1207021200_uk

It looks as if the future of mankind could be in the balance if this report is true, its not going to be the quick extinction like the dinosaurs went through but a much slower lingering extinction, whoever termed the phrase that "Greed is Good" doesn't give a monkeys toss about anyone else but themselves.

The article is a bit off the mark there... Humans have been causing species to go extinct long before modern times. The Maori hunted the Moa to extinction, which starved the giant Eagles to extinction. The Aboriginals hunted the Diprotodon to death, and Europeans, Asians, and Americans wiped out the Woolly Mammoth.

Still, given that we're the only animals on the planet who are aware that we're causing an extinction event, I doubt we'll reach Permian levels (95% of all life destroyed).

By the way, Dinosaurs aren't extinct. You see them every day.

Méo · 07-14-17, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by August

I think it's a pretty safe bet that none of us will live to see the end of either the earth or the human race.

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Agreed

It's no reason to ignore it.

Personally I'm pretty glad that my ancestors were in no position to have that kind of reasoning...

Catfish · 07-14-17, 02:41 AM

Earth has a disease called "Homo sapiens".
But as Mars recently said: "Don't worry, you'll get over it."

We are meanwhile nearing a CO level that has only existed once in earth's time, at the end of the Permian, to Triassic. The ecosystem took around 30 million years to recover back then. While we argue whether mankind has something to do with the current rise of CO levels or not, and telling those damned tree huggers to bugger off, the inanimate rocky ball of earth itself will not have a problem.

That species become extinct also happens without mankind helping, however the scope of plain killing high numbers of animals of all kinds done by mankind (not yet call it extinction, we might still find one or two bornean rhinoceroses somewhere, just not in numbers able to replicate in the future) has become enormous, which is especially true for insects in civilized countries. It is not only companies like Monsanto, but generally insecticides and defoliage chemicals used e.g. for potato crop has killed so many bees in Germany that we have to import them just to balance the fertilization of agricultural crop.

Regarding global warming and rising CO levels, or all those methanhydrate craters going off recently: whether it is human influence or the sun letting off more energy – you'd suppose maybe at least thinking a bit about it and planning, would be in order? Obviously not.

Earlier this year, the White House proposed slashing funding for the Science Advisory Board by 84 percent. It is not only the US of course, if you look at Russia, or China. Germany is not better, it just isn't big enough to have so much impact. But "we" also have no specialists anymore, all leaving or we just let the technology drop off, like e.g. with seismography. We invented it, made it high tech, and then we just let it being bought off or dropped it altogether.

Putting our heads in the sand and call it all fake news will of course solve the problem. Scientists are all leftist donkeyholes, standing in the way of commerce and financial progress anyway

Seriously coming back to the op, earth's end as a rocky agglomeration of minerals will come when the sun develops into its red giant phase, most probably earth will then just have its atmosphere blown off, melt, and become a gas to be dispersed in space.

mapuc · 07-12-17, 08:44 PM

if one believes in the almighty then this will be convinced God will come to our rescue and take over the steering wheels before we completely drive over the edge

While some believe in a thing called Gaia that Earth is a living organisme and thinking ditto.

Will God take control and let some part of the human live on

or

Will this Gaia erase the human kind from her organisme or let some of the human get a second chance to improve

That was about the Human

Earth:

Will, if Bible is wrong in some way, God let Earth be destroyed or give it another chance with other living things than human or will Human still be his choice ?

Markus

August · 07-12-17, 09:13 PM

I absolutely do believe that God would allow us to destroy the earth. Our tiny bit of floating rock could hardly be of significance to an omnipotent being responsible for creating existence itself.

I figure that he gave us this playground and he gave us the free will to do with it and each other as our consciences will abide. If we mess it up it's on us, just as what we do to each other is also on us and I believe that once this life is done we'll be judged on how we chose to live it and whether we deserve to move on.

mapuc · 07-12-17, 09:22 PM

When I wrote/made my thread I had not God in my mind only science stuff

When I read Reece comments I thought

My thread can be discussed from a religious point-of-view or from a Science-point-of view.

It's up the each debater how he or she sees it.

Markus

Skybird · 07-13-17, 05:33 AM

Watch "Life of Pi".

07-12-17, 07:39 PM	#1
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,537 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Earth's expiration date and the humans expiration day Some weeks ago I saw on a science program. The Univers In this episode they had asked the science people, who has the space as their work area. what they thought could be the end of the world and/or Earth The program made me think/wonder It's no doubt that our planet and the people that lives on it has an expiration date. I'm pretty sure the expiration date for the human kind is close than Earth expiration date. I also think it's more likely that we the human kind, will erase us self from the surface than some earth-killer asteroid would hit us. When it comes to our Mother Earth I don't know what is most highly to happen a planet almost the size of Earth hit us or the Sun expand and swallow Earth ? No I'm absolutely not worried. If you may wonder or think so. Markus

07-12-17, 08:10 PM	#2
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,699 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Only God knows that date!! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

07-12-17, 08:25 PM	#3
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think it's a pretty safe bet that none of us will live to see the end of either the earth or the human race. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

07-13-17, 08:03 AM	#7
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	I know. Let's pick 27,000 species out the millions of species on earth. We'll pick them arbitrarily to ensure bias, make grand assumptions about past extinction rates, as if we knew at any given time how many species exist (heck, we can't even agree on what a species IS!!) and then make a prediction of doom. Shades of 1950s science fiction movies, but for a lot more money. Doom sells. What people buy we will get more of. People are absolute SUCKERS for predictions of doom, especially THEIR doom. Watch for more more and darker doom scenarios, invented from whole cloth, sold to you by news media which has lost its compass and doesn't know what news is any more. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

07-14-17, 02:41 AM	#10
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,766 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Earth has a disease called "Homo sapiens". But as Mars recently said: "Don't worry, you'll get over it." We are meanwhile nearing a CO level that has only existed once in earth's time, at the end of the Permian, to Triassic. The ecosystem took around 30 million years to recover back then. While we argue whether mankind has something to do with the current rise of CO levels or not, and telling those damned tree huggers to bugger off, the inanimate rocky ball of earth itself will not have a problem. That species become extinct also happens without mankind helping, however the scope of plain killing high numbers of animals of all kinds done by mankind (not yet call it extinction, we might still find one or two bornean rhinoceroses somewhere, just not in numbers able to replicate in the future) has become enormous, which is especially true for insects in civilized countries. It is not only companies like Monsanto, but generally insecticides and defoliage chemicals used e.g. for potato crop has killed so many bees in Germany that we have to import them just to balance the fertilization of agricultural crop. Regarding global warming and rising CO levels, or all those methanhydrate craters going off recently: whether it is human influence or the sun letting off more energy – you'd suppose maybe at least thinking a bit about it and planning, would be in order? Obviously not. Earlier this year, the White House proposed slashing funding for the Science Advisory Board by 84 percent. It is not only the US of course, if you look at Russia, or China. Germany is not better, it just isn't big enough to have so much impact. But "we" also have no specialists anymore, all leaving or we just let the technology drop off, like e.g. with seismography. We invented it, made it high tech, and then we just let it being bought off or dropped it altogether. Putting our heads in the sand and call it all fake news will of course solve the problem. Scientists are all leftist donkeyholes, standing in the way of commerce and financial progress anyway Seriously coming back to the op, earth's end as a rocky agglomeration of minerals will come when the sun develops into its red giant phase, most probably earth will then just have its atmosphere blown off, melt, and become a gas to be dispersed in space. __________________ >^..^<)))>{ All generalizations are wrong. Last edited by Catfish; 07-14-17 at 02:55 AM.*

07-12-17, 08:44 PM	#11
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,537 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	if one believes in the almighty then this will be convinced God will come to our rescue and take over the steering wheels before we completely drive over the edge While some believe in a thing called Gaia that Earth is a living organisme and thinking ditto. Will God take control and let some part of the human live on or Will this Gaia erase the human kind from her organisme or let some of the human get a second chance to improve That was about the Human Earth: Will, if Bible is wrong in some way, God let Earth be destroyed or give it another chance with other living things than human or will Human still be his choice ? Markus

07-12-17, 09:13 PM	#12
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I absolutely do believe that God would allow us to destroy the earth. Our tiny bit of floating rock could hardly be of significance to an omnipotent being responsible for creating existence itself. I figure that he gave us this playground and he gave us the free will to do with it and each other as our consciences will abide. If we mess it up it's on us, just as what we do to each other is also on us and I believe that once this life is done we'll be judged on how we chose to live it and whether we deserve to move on. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

07-12-17, 09:22 PM	#13
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,537 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	When I wrote/made my thread I had not God in my mind only science stuff When I read Reece comments I thought My thread can be discussed from a religious point-of-view or from a Science-point-of view. It's up the each debater how he or she sees it. Markus

07-13-17, 05:33 AM	#14
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,612 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Watch "Life of Pi". __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.