BBC News and Russia.

XabbaRus · 02-04-16, 06:04 PM

I don't know if it is just me but of late I seem to be noticing a trend with regards to BBC reporting of Russia. Almost every article on the BBC news website whether it is a news piece or magazine piece seems to be borderline to outright negative and seems to be pushing some sort of agenda, almost as if priming the British public for something. It was this magazine piece in particular.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zpm8xsg

Anyone else noticing the same thing or am I being paranoid?

Oberon · 02-04-16, 06:23 PM

That one was an accompany to a program on BBC Two last night which got a load of ex-ministers, military leaders and diplomats and put them through a Ukraine style situation involving Estonia and Latvia which eventually transitions into a nuclear exchange when Russia 'accidentally' nukes a US and UK carrier fleet.
It's the sort of piecemeal tactic that Russia has trademarked in the Ukraine and Crimea, although I think the nuking of the ships was a bit OTT but the rest was pretty pointed.
Does the Beeb have an agenda? It's possible, but since we're not quite sure where we're standing with the Russians at the moment, sort of working with them against Daesh but acting against them because of the Ukraine and Litvenenko.
Besides, we did all the 'Terrorists coming to kill us all' media back in the 2000s, and now the Bear is back, it makes much better drama.

mapuc · 02-04-16, 06:47 PM

I have somehow noticed the same in our Danish and Swedish news paper, where an article from Russia a decade ago was written with a positive view today they seems almost negative.

Markus

Schroeder · 02-04-16, 07:18 PM

It's the same here. Russia = Evil.
They support Assad so they must be demonized.

AngusJS · 02-04-16, 09:25 PM

I'd say it's because the Russian government that has turned negative, which is now being reported on.

Invading neighboring countries and shooting down airliners will have that effect.

ikalugin · 02-04-16, 11:27 PM

The "WW3" documentary is rather amusing, as we apparently use a long range SAM to engage a helicopter from Russian territory rather than local separatists acquiring MANPADS from whatever source they do.

But, yes, it is about projecting the perceptions of Ukrainian crisis onto poor Baltics.

Regarding the media - there is a negative bias. I remember it from Sochi olympics, when western reporters came, they came to report negative developments, not to report what was actually there. The cause for such bias is not a command by some evill state authority - it is the result of their own (biased) reporting in the past.

As to the airliner, do you imply that Russian Armed Forces shot down the poor MH17?

Cybermat47 · 02-05-16, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by AngusJS

I'd say it's because the Russian government that has turned negative, which is now being reported on.

Invading neighboring countries and shooting down airliners will have that effect.

Yeah, Putin seems like he really wants to regain all the former Soviet Union. Invading Georgia and Ukraine, as well as annexing South Ossetia, are a pretty big clue.

Hopefully he loses power before he drags Russia down with him.

Mittelwaechter · 02-06-16, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

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Besides, we did all the 'Terrorists coming to kill us all' media back in the 2000s, and now the Bear is back, it makes much better drama.

Munich Security Conference next week! People have to understand more investment in defence is necessary. Terrorists with bomb belts are hard to fight with tanks and jet fighters, but a dangerous well armed Putin is ideal for the interests of the military-industrial-complex.

ikalugin · 02-06-16, 08:52 AM

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Munich Security Conference next week! People have to understand more investment in defence is necessary. Terrorists with bomb belts are hard to fight with tanks and jet fighters, but a dangerous well armed Putin is ideal for the interests of the military-industrial-complex.

We still remember the good old speech he did back in the day during this conference. I wonder how many people have heard about it.

Mittelwaechter · 02-06-16, 09:13 PM

Of course it was mentioned in our media, but not translated.
Putin was aggressive, threatening and terrifying - so the general tenor of our media.

http://archive.kremlin.ru/eng/speech...pe84779_118123

02-04-16, 06:04 PM	#1
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	BBC News and Russia. I don't know if it is just me but of late I seem to be noticing a trend with regards to BBC reporting of Russia. Almost every article on the BBC news website whether it is a news piece or magazine piece seems to be borderline to outright negative and seems to be pushing some sort of agenda, almost as if priming the British public for something. It was this magazine piece in particular. http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zpm8xsg Anyone else noticing the same thing or am I being paranoid? __________________

02-04-16, 07:18 PM	#4
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	It's the same here. Russia = Evil. They support Assad so they must be demonized. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

02-04-16, 11:27 PM	#6
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	The "WW3" documentary is rather amusing, as we apparently use a long range SAM to engage a helicopter from Russian territory rather than local separatists acquiring MANPADS from whatever source they do. But, yes, it is about projecting the perceptions of Ukrainian crisis onto poor Baltics. Regarding the media - there is a negative bias. I remember it from Sochi olympics, when western reporters came, they came to report negative developments, not to report what was actually there. The cause for such bias is not a command by some evill state authority - it is the result of their own (biased) reporting in the past. As to the airliner, do you imply that Russian Armed Forces shot down the poor MH17? __________________ Grumpy as always.

02-06-16, 09:13 PM	#10
Mittelwaechter The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,304 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Of course it was mentioned in our media, but not translated. Putin was aggressive, threatening and terrifying - so the general tenor of our media. http://archive.kremlin.ru/eng/speech...pe84779_118123 __________________ 10 happy wolves rear 90 blinded, ensnared sheep. 90 happy sheep banish the wolves. Arrest the 1% - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ6hg1oNeGE

02-04-16, 06:23 PM	#2
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	That one was an accompany to a program on BBC Two last night which got a load of ex-ministers, military leaders and diplomats and put them through a Ukraine style situation involving Estonia and Latvia which eventually transitions into a nuclear exchange when Russia 'accidentally' nukes a US and UK carrier fleet. It's the sort of piecemeal tactic that Russia has trademarked in the Ukraine and Crimea, although I think the nuking of the ships was a bit OTT but the rest was pretty pointed. Does the Beeb have an agenda? It's possible, but since we're not quite sure where we're standing with the Russians at the moment, sort of working with them against Daesh but acting against them because of the Ukraine and Litvenenko. Besides, we did all the 'Terrorists coming to kill us all' media back in the 2000s, and now the Bear is back, it makes much better drama.

02-04-16, 06:47 PM	#3
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,538 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	I have somehow noticed the same in our Danish and Swedish news paper, where an article from Russia a decade ago was written with a positive view today they seems almost negative. Markus

02-04-16, 09:25 PM	#5
AngusJS Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 746 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	I'd say it's because the Russian government that has turned negative, which is now being reported on. Invading neighboring countries and shooting down airliners will have that effect.