Pope Francis: Who am I to judge gay people?

Gerald · 07-29-13, 08:11 AM

The Pope's position on gay people appears to contrast with that of his predecessor.

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Pope Francis has said gay people should not be marginalised but integrated into society.
Speaking to reporters on a flight back from Brazil, he reaffirmed the Roman Catholic Church's position that homosexual acts were sinful, but homosexual orientation was not."If a person is gay and seeks God and has good will, who am I to judge him?"

The Pope needs to Promote Their ideas.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23489702

Note: 29 July 2013 Last updated at 12:54 GMT

Cybermat47 · 07-29-13, 04:20 PM

I like this new Pope!

Apparently he's gotten rid of that golden throne too!

Stealhead · 07-29-13, 04:42 PM

Well that belongs to the Vatican(the throne) not the Pope so he did not get rid of it he just does not use it.

You know this reminds me of a book I found and scanned through once it was claiming how the Catholic Church was supporting communism by helping poor people and what not.

It was obliviously propaganda written by a hard core anti-communist anti-Catholic Protestant.I do not recall the exact title but it was a 1970's era book it does not matter anyway as it was nothing more than a propaganda rag.

I am not a Catholic by the way but I have no problem with Catholics or any religion really unless your goal is to make Hello Kitty real or something like that.

AVGWarhawk · 07-30-13, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

unless your goal is to make Hello Kitty real or something like that.

Wait, what? Hello Kitty is not real.

Schroeder · 07-29-13, 04:42 PM

Was about time. He doesn't seem to be as conservative as a lot of people have feared.

Skybird · 07-29-13, 05:20 PM

He also said that women should play a more active role, but that they should not be priests. So his turning away from conservatism has limits.

On TV I just saw him minutes ago, in the same press meeting in a plane he also condemned lobbies in general (when being asked whether there was a gay lobby in the Vatican) and said that all kinds of lobbies are bad. Score!

His comment on gays is just sound reason, and when combining it with his remarks on lobbyism in general it is not much different than what I think and say, too: leave gays as what they are, stop making a big issue of it (both in good or bad), do not discriminate them but also stop pushing gay agendas down the throat of people and society all the time.

My view of marriage and family is unchanged, of course. And I do not expect this pope to change the church's view of gay marriages. Nor has he so far.

WernherVonTrapp · 07-29-13, 07:01 PM

I think the Pope is right. There is only one judge, and it's not me either. I'm still very busy trying to remove the plank from my own eye.

Skybird · 07-29-13, 07:40 PM

Why not using that plank for keeping the eyelid open so that you see better?

Mittelwaechter · 07-29-13, 07:53 PM

I am atheist, but I think this Pope could be a great leader for those who do believe but still have an open mind. A modern, realistic and liberal-minded Pope - as far as this is possible.

He may be a problem for the conservative, narrow minded bullheads, those fanatic christians who own the air superiority over their traditional, only true ethical values.

Let's hope he will not be put out of the game violently.

07-29-13, 04:20 PM	#2
Cybermat47 Willing Webfooted Beast Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 5,408 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 23	I like this new Pope! Apparently he's gotten rid of that golden throne too! __________________ Historical TWoS Gameplay Guide: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2572620 Historical FotRSU Gameplay Guide: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho....php?p=2713394

07-29-13, 04:42 PM	#5
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Was about time. He doesn't seem to be as conservative as a lot of people have feared. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

07-29-13, 05:20 PM	#6
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,620 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	He also said that women should play a more active role, but that they should not be priests. So his turning away from conservatism has limits. On TV I just saw him minutes ago, in the same press meeting in a plane he also condemned lobbies in general (when being asked whether there was a gay lobby in the Vatican) and said that all kinds of lobbies are bad. Score! His comment on gays is just sound reason, and when combining it with his remarks on lobbyism in general it is not much different than what I think and say, too: leave gays as what they are, stop making a big issue of it (both in good or bad), do not discriminate them but also stop pushing gay agendas down the throat of people and society all the time. My view of marriage and family is unchanged, of course. And I do not expect this pope to change the church's view of gay marriages. Nor has he so far. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-29-13, 07:01 PM	#7
WernherVonTrapp Admiral Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Now, alot farther from NYC. Posts: 2,228 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	I think the Pope is right. There is only one judge, and it's not me either. I'm still very busy trying to remove the plank from my own eye. __________________ "The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." -Miyamoto Musashi ------------------------------------------------------- "What is truth?" -Pontius Pilate

07-29-13, 07:40 PM	#8
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,620 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Why not using that plank for keeping the eyelid open so that you see better? __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-29-13, 04:42 PM	#3
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Well that belongs to the Vatican(the throne) not the Pope so he did not get rid of it he just does not use it. You know this reminds me of a book I found and scanned through once it was claiming how the Catholic Church was supporting communism by helping poor people and what not. It was obliviously propaganda written by a hard core anti-communist anti-Catholic Protestant.I do not recall the exact title but it was a 1970's era book it does not matter anyway as it was nothing more than a propaganda rag. I am not a Catholic by the way but I have no problem with Catholics or any religion really unless your goal is to make Hello Kitty real or something like that.

07-29-13, 07:53 PM	#9
Mittelwaechter The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,304 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	I am atheist, but I think this Pope could be a great leader for those who do believe but still have an open mind. A modern, realistic and liberal-minded Pope - as far as this is possible. He may be a problem for the conservative, narrow minded bullheads, those fanatic christians who own the air superiority over their traditional, only true ethical values. Let's hope he will not be put out of the game violently. __________________ 10 happy wolves rear 90 blinded, ensnared sheep. 90 happy sheep banish the wolves. Arrest the 1% - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ6hg1oNeGE