What is your take? - Page 2

RickC Sniper · 03-07-13, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz

As for the Redskins football team, I think they would be better served by removing the native American logo or pay some royalties for its use.

Pay a royalty to whom?

Which tribe?

Every tribe?

Everyone with .02% Indian ancestry?

The Crazy Horse monument under construction?

I see a legit gripe about the term Redskin. It is a slur.
Indians, Fighting Sioux, Seminoles, Utes........all good names in imo.

Takeda Shingen · 03-07-13, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2

It is not being used in a disrespectful manner.

The term itself is disrespectful. 'Redskin' was a term of disparegement used by those of European descent against native peoples. It is akin to the N word referring to African Americans. That one does not mean it offensively does not negate the offense of the word.

If you want stalwart and brave, call them the Washington Warriors. You can keep the Native American imagery, the big tough connotation and still not offend people. Done.

Wolferz · 03-07-13, 05:19 PM

Drop the red and keep the skins.

mookiemookie · 03-07-13, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

If you want stalwart and brave, call them the Washington Warriors. You can keep the Native American imagery, the big tough connotation and still not offend people. Done.

That wouldn't even work. Marquette University was the Warriors. Then their Board of Trustees decided that was offensive and changed the name to the Gold, then the Golden Eagles.

soopaman2 · 03-07-13, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

The term itself is disrespectful. 'Redskin' was a term of disparegement used by those of European descent against native peoples. It is akin to the N word referring to African Americans. That one does not mean it offensively does not negate the offense of the word.

If you want stalwart and brave, call them the Washington Warriors. You can keep the Native American imagery, the big tough connotation and still not offend people. Done.

I see your point, I just do not hold it in that context, at least in my own mind. The fans of that team do not either.

The Atlanta Braves came under the same scrutiny in the past, whats offensive about Braves. Besides someone looking to sue? Or try to cement a legacy by battling the big bad white man, who lord over them now.

Natives have taken a legacy from the ex enslaved, who wish to continually use our rotten history against us. Unlike the African slaves, they were at least givin reservations, where they govern as their own. Yet some activist jumps up, to talk about how many of their kin did not get free casino loans. Or free independant land.

The blacks oughta be angry about this. We really treated them like crap, we didn't trade with them, we traded them.

Takeda Shingen · 03-07-13, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2

I see your point, I just do not hold it in that context, at least in my own mind. The fans of that team do not either.

The Atlanta Braves came under the same scrutiny in the past, whats offensive about Braves. Besides someone looking to sue? Or try to cement a legacy by battling the big bad white man, who lord over them now.

Natives have taken a legacy from the ex enslaved, who wish to continually use our rotten history against us. Unlike the African slaves, they were at least givin reservations, where they govern as their own. Yet some activist jumps up, to talk about how many of their kin did not get free casino loans. Or free independant land.

The blacks oughta be angry about this. We really treated them like crap, we didn't trade with them, we traded them.

I think you need to read up on your American history.

mookiemookie · 03-08-13, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2

The Atlanta Braves came under the same scrutiny in the past, whats offensive about Braves. Besides someone looking to sue? Or try to cement a legacy by battling the big bad white man, who lord over them now.

As I understand it, the Atlanta Braves controversy was centered not so much around the name, but the imagery the team used. The Tomahawk chop and some of the cartoony stuff like Chief Noc-A-Homa. Same thing with the Cleveland Indians and Chief Wahoo.

TarJak · 03-08-13, 08:27 AM

Rats clacker. As in I couldn't give one.

Jimbuna · 03-08-13, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TarJak

Rats clacker. As in I couldn't give one.

It looks to me like some of that Brit political correctness has moved across the pond.

AVGWarhawk · 03-08-13, 08:41 AM

Let's call the team the Washington Paleface. Problem solved.

Platapus · 03-08-13, 09:11 AM

We could call them the Washington Electrolux

After all, nothing sucks like an electrolux.

AVGWarhawk · 03-08-13, 09:15 AM

Well, if we call them the Senators(like the old baseball team). They can sit and do nothing much like the Senators on Capitol Hill.

August · 03-08-13, 09:22 AM

Maybe they could call themselves "Custers Revenge"?

Singed · 03-08-13, 09:37 AM

With everything else that is going on in this country, I am completely indifferent to what a group of professional ball players call themselves or who is upset about it.

AVGWarhawk · 03-08-13, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Singed

With everything else that is going on in this country, I am completely indifferent to what a group of professional ball players call themselves or who is upset about it.

I'm offended by this comment.

No wait, your right!

03-07-13, 05:19 PM	#18
Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Drop the red and keep the skins. __________________ Tomorrow never comes

03-08-13, 08:41 AM	#25
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,257 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Let's call the team the Washington Paleface. Problem solved. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,369 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	We could call them the Washington Electrolux After all, nothing sucks like an electrolux. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

03-08-13, 09:15 AM	#27
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,257 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Well, if we call them the Senators(like the old baseball team). They can sit and do nothing much like the Senators on Capitol Hill. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,199 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Maybe they could call themselves "Custers Revenge"? __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

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TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Rats clacker. As in I couldn't give one.

03-08-13, 09:37 AM	#29
Singed Sailbad the Sinner Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 106 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	With everything else that is going on in this country, I am completely indifferent to what a group of professional ball players call themselves or who is upset about it.