Data Protection/EU Privacy Debate

[the_tyrant]

hey, maybe we can all contribute a bit and get @subsim emails!


Seriously, please understand that anything you put on a server that is not yours is no longer yours.

I like Skydrive, enjoys Nokia Music, I have a Gmail account, and my other email is hosted by this email hosting company.

but please understand that anything and everything on the internet is not yours.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by HundertzehnGustav

But i know where their car is parked and where their house lives.

[HundertzehnGustav]

Therefor i wonder: do we need to send an army of overpaid EU paperpushers to defend every freedom we, as silly buggers, let go?

I have the feeling, (the southern part of the) US sometimes feels the same. And many other regions and individual countries as well.

It is maybe time for the individual user to start flipping the thing.
instead of using the net to publish, use the net to NOT publish.

I am absolutely on the point of the tyrant: the web is uncontrollable. but also "free". or shall it be called "anarchy?" Is it already a Warzone?

Crying and making rules can work. Applying these rules can work with a lot of time (years!) and effort (cash!).

But it is in the individual brain where "Change" happens. To use the word of a wellknown afrikan american hawaiian Man.
It is in every Guy's power to do so.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Skybird

I wish Britain, Germany and Finland would leave the EU, and together with Finland would form a new northern economy zone - that leaves it to economic coordinating, nothing more.

WOW! Now that is a interesting idea.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by STEED

WOW! Now that is a interesting idea.

Not really...probably end up in a third war between the Germans and Brits

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Not really...probably end up in a third war between the Germans and Brits

Can't see it.

Hey Skybird I hear Germany is pulling every gold bar out of France, now that is going to get them rather angry. Who cares its your gold, after all Germany is taking a percentage out of the BoE & Fed as well.

[the_tyrant]

remember the old saying that if you tell someone a secret it is no longer a secret?

that applies to the internet too.

just remember that and you would be fine

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Google and facebook are good tools for insurance companies to reject claims, the "like" button is magic.

Really?
I have liked the plague on facebook, now I fear my medical insurance might deny treatment in case i catch it.
An honest question, nonetheless: do you know a case where the companies were succesfull with a rejection based on a like-click, even in court?

However my original statement considering the like-button, was about a practice, mentioned for example in this article: https://www.datenschutzzentrum.de/pr...acebook-en.htm
This is why websites who care about data protection, hide google+/facebook crap, untill the user explicitly agrees to show them.
For anyone interested, here is a javascript example, by the German computer mag c't: http://www.heise.de/extras/socialshareprivacy/ (site is in GErman, however code is universal)

Originally Posted by the_tyrant

Seriously, please understand that anything you put on a server that is not yours is no longer yours.

Repeating the same argument twice on one page, does not change the fact that the law and people who care about data protection see it different.

Please check what's true:
( ) you have read the article
( ) you know the difference between the two proposed drafts
( ) you know the data protection laws of at least one EU member state
( ) you know what 'consent' and 'revoking consent' means

Judging from your statements I can't see any of this. In case you check all 4 boxes, we can have an open debate about the proposed law. Cheers!

[HundertzehnGustav]

well then i will only laugh at them, because these people are wayyyy behind the action curve.