Friendly ships and Sonar and Submarines - Page 2

gap · 01-21-13, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V13dweller

I made a test for the enemy submarines and the Friendly Destroyers, The Friendly destroyers are useless when it come to depth charges, they barely use them, probably once in the test, they just circle around where the subs are underwater, and just wait for them to surface.
Is this meant to happen?

Was this with IRAI enabled? What was mission's date? What veterancy level were the friendly destroyers set to?

Trevally. · 01-21-13, 05:18 PM

what depth was the water

V13dweller · 01-22-13, 05:58 AM

The depth was about 40 meters and IRAI was enabled. The date was 1942 1st of December, and the crews of both the subs and ships were veteran.

Trevally. · 01-22-13, 01:21 PM

Try again in deeper water - im sure you will see some DCing

V13dweller · 01-24-13, 04:52 AM

Also, do the ship compensate for the depth charge thrower? because the Soldati destroyer only has these throwers and no racks to drop them.
the destroyer just passes over the sub with it's rack no scoring a hit, because it has no racks.

gap · 01-24-13, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V13dweller

Also, do the ship compensate for the depth charge thrower? because the Soldati destroyer only has these throwers and no racks to drop them.
the destroyer just passes over the sub with it's rack no scoring a hit, because it has no racks.

As per stock settings, from 1 Jan 1938 to 31 May 1941 the Soldati destroyer is equipped with two broken K-gun projectors. Try installing Cerberus62 Corrected Depth Charge Projector which replaces them with similar (yet working) projectors

P.S: download link in the last post

V13dweller · 01-24-13, 10:41 AM

Thanks gap, Ill install this mod right away and see if if works.

gap · 01-24-13, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V13dweller

Thanks gap, Ill install this mod right away and see if if works.

Keep us informed

V13dweller · 01-24-13, 11:56 AM

I just did another shallow water test with the K gun fix, and the Soldati seems to be happy to discharge ordinance with, hmm, relatively poor accuracy.

I will run a deep water test soon, to see if the German Destroyer will actually make some attempts to help.

V13dweller · 01-24-13, 12:17 PM

OK, after the deep water test, it yielded the same results, bearly any action was taken, the German destroyers made no attempt, they just performed what looked like an attack pattern, but they dropped no depth charges, I am beginning to think that the German and Italian destroyers either only have a passive hydrophone or that they are not programmed properly.

From what I have seen the German Destroyers just stop and idle when an enemy is near.

Even the Montecuccoli Light Cruiser made more attempts than the German Destroyer, They Cruiser made a single pass, it was interesting to see a Cruiser depth charge a submarine though

Generally, they seem to avoid the submarines, but once enough destroyers were sunk it decided to come in, once, then it fled, to hang around the out side of the group.

gap · 01-24-13, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V13dweller

I just did another shallow water test with the K gun fix, and the Soldati seems to be happy to discharge ordinance with, hmm, relatively poor accuracy.

I will run a deep water test soon, to see if the German Destroyer will actually make some attempts to help.

Quote:

Originally Posted by V13dweller

OK, after the deep water test, it yielded the same results...

your tests are very useful for tracking down broken equipments, V13dweller, please keep them on.

Nontheless, in order to undertand what is going on, we need for more information:

what date your last test mission was set to? And what about destroyer's veterancy levels? Have you update IRAI to the latest version?

Both Soldati Class and Type 1934A destroyers are equipped with active sonar and radar, but they use different models with different specs depending on date, and radars are absent till 1940-41

V13dweller · 01-24-13, 11:44 PM

The year was 1941 and the date was December 1st, and I only downloaded IRAI a few weeks ago, so I expect they have not released a new version yet.

Navuhodonosor · 01-24-13, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by V13dweller

The year was 1941 and the date was December 1st, and I only downloaded IRAI a few weeks ago, so I expect they have not released a new version yet.

This is the last and younger then few weeks.

V13dweller · 01-24-13, 11:59 PM

Oh, thanks Navuhodonosor

V13dweller · 01-25-13, 01:42 AM

Ok, after the deep water test with the newest version of IRAI the German destroyers are now using their depth charges, albeit with the shockingly bad accuracy as the Italians before.

And for some reason the British subs fire ALL ten of their torpedoes at once!
SO they run out without a hit in most cases.

01-21-13, 05:18 PM	#17
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01-22-13, 01:21 PM	#19
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01-24-13, 12:17 PM	#25
V13dweller Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 768 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 2	OK, after the deep water test, it yielded the same results, bearly any action was taken, the German destroyers made no attempt, they just performed what looked like an attack pattern, but they dropped no depth charges, I am beginning to think that the German and Italian destroyers either only have a passive hydrophone or that they are not programmed properly. From what I have seen the German Destroyers just stop and idle when an enemy is near. Even the Montecuccoli Light Cruiser made more attempts than the German Destroyer, They Cruiser made a single pass, it was interesting to see a Cruiser depth charge a submarine though Generally, they seem to avoid the submarines, but once enough destroyers were sunk it decided to come in, once, then it fled, to hang around the out side of the group. Last edited by V13dweller; 01-24-13 at 12:50 PM.

01-22-13, 05:58 AM	#18
V13dweller Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 768 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 2	The depth was about 40 meters and IRAI was enabled. The date was 1942 1st of December, and the crews of both the subs and ships were veteran.

01-24-13, 04:52 AM	#20
V13dweller Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 768 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 2	Also, do the ship compensate for the depth charge thrower? because the Soldati destroyer only has these throwers and no racks to drop them. the destroyer just passes over the sub with it's rack no scoring a hit, because it has no racks.

01-24-13, 10:41 AM	#22
V13dweller Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 768 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 2	Thanks gap, Ill install this mod right away and see if if works.

01-24-13, 11:56 AM	#24
V13dweller Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 768 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 2	I just did another shallow water test with the K gun fix, and the Soldati seems to be happy to discharge ordinance with, hmm, relatively poor accuracy. I will run a deep water test soon, to see if the German Destroyer will actually make some attempts to help.

01-24-13, 11:44 PM	#27
V13dweller Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 768 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 2	The year was 1941 and the date was December 1st, and I only downloaded IRAI a few weeks ago, so I expect they have not released a new version yet.

01-24-13, 11:59 PM	#29
V13dweller Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 768 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 2	Oh, thanks Navuhodonosor

01-25-13, 01:42 AM	#30
V13dweller Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 768 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 2	Ok, after the deep water test with the newest version of IRAI the German destroyers are now using their depth charges, albeit with the shockingly bad accuracy as the Italians before. And for some reason the British subs fire ALL ten of their torpedoes at once! SO they run out without a hit in most cases.