California man linked to anti-Islam film denies violating probation - Page 2

Takeda Shingen · 10-11-12, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47

NOTE: My new rank is worse than being in the brig!

It's not punitive. It will change shortly. Once upon a time I had it too.

Cybermat47 · 10-11-12, 12:40 AM

And it's gone. Phew.

eddie · 10-11-12, 09:33 PM

Setting aside the reaction to the movie, if he's violated his probation, he has to pay just as we would have to if we had gotten in trouble and were put on probation.

Cybermat47 · 10-11-12, 10:12 PM

That's true.

Skybird · 10-12-12, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by August

Can a video, any video not necessarily this one, be considered a hate crime? If so what would be the requirements for such?

Freedom of expression: can a finger gesture to the traffic cop, or an obscene word to a car driver who cut you short, earn you a financial fee, yes or not?

Of course a movie can be a hate crime. It's just difficult to formalize its definition in legal terms even when the intention is crystal clear. Palestinian children TV is full of it, that is the first example immediately on my mind.

August · 10-12-12, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Freedom of expression: can a finger gesture to the traffic cop, or an obscene word to a car driver who cut you short, earn you a financial fee, yes or not?

Not here in this country, at least not by themselves.

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Of course a movie can be a hate crime. It's just difficult to formalize its definition in legal terms even when the intention is crystal clear. Palestinian children TV is full of it, that is the first example immediately on my mind.

That sounds like Potter Stewart's definition of obscenity.

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10-11-12, 09:33 PM	#18
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Setting aside the reaction to the movie, if he's violated his probation, he has to pay just as we would have to if we had gotten in trouble and were put on probation. __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

10-11-12, 10:12 PM	#19
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