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Old 09-26-12, 05:53 PM   #16
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49 Nations and 6 major sects forming one Ummah (not six - one) that always all of a sudden speak with remarkable unity and conformity when it is about pushing back other cultures, relativising freedom and free speech and human rights, propagating human rights as defined by Islam, and demanding special status for Islam.

The army of a country may have different weapon branches, divisions and brigades. It still is one army.
Except that every army has a commanding general, unlike Islam.
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Except that every army has a commanding general, unlike Islam.
It has, Muhammad, but he is dead. But he left behind his plan and strategy papers.
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My reply to Obama would be; Thats great - now please tell me how you can afford it Mr President? because 'always' is along time. The way Americas unsustainable finances are run - it proabably doesn't have a very 'long time'.
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It has, Muhammad, but he is dead. But he left behind his plan and strategy papers.
And unfortunatley for him, virtually everyone who reads them has different interpretation of what they actually mean. And if they mean what you think they mean, well....he should have left them a vast weapons cache and a pile of gold, because they wont get very far with sticks and stones - which is all most of them have access to.
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And unfortunatley for him, virtually everyone who reads them has different interpretation of what they actually mean. And if they mean what you think they mean, well....he should have left them a vast weapons cache and a pile of gold, because they wont get very far with sticks and stones - which is all most of them have access to.
When was the last time you checked monetary funds controlld by Muslim powers heavily buying key pieces of Western industry?

The military component of conquest is not that important anymore like it was during the huge invasions of Europe by Muslim armies. Demographics and economics have taken over as a tool to push forward the cause. Militarily, only the third world and Africa and ME remain to be a playground for Islamic pushing by military force. But via the nuke crisis over Iran, resulting in proliferation, and destabilisation due to a nuclear arms race between Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Syria, Turkey, Pakistan and possibly Libya, the military missionising could become more important outside this area again - and push the whole world over the edge.
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It has, Muhammad, but he is dead. But he left behind his plan and strategy papers.

Well that's just not good enough. No battle plan ever survives contact with the enemy.

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When was the last time you checked monetary funds controlld by Muslim powers heavily buying key pieces of Western industry?
When was the last time you checked it? I wouldn't speak for your country but in mine that is just not happening.
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When was the last time you checked monetary funds controlld by Muslim powers heavily buying key pieces of Western industry?

The military component of conquest is not that important anymore like it was during the huge invasions of Europe by Muslim armies. Demographics and economics have taken over as a tool to push forward the cause. Militarily, only the third world and Africa and ME remain to be a playground for Islamic pushing by military force. But via the nuke crisis over Iran, resulting in proliferation, and destabilisation due to a nuclear arms race between Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Syria, Turkey, Pakistan and possibly Libya, the military missionising could become more important outside this area again - and push the whole world over the edge.
Muslim powers or rich arabs? - who will cease to be rich the moment the middle east oil wells dry up?... (unless they become the worlds number 1 exporters of glass I suppose.)
The majoriy of the muslim world resides in some of the poorest nations on the planet, think you'll find they are too busy trying to feed their oversized offspring to have time for world domination, if you think any substancial percentage of the worlds wealth and influence is in the hands of islamists you are badly mistaken. I guess they have 'man power', but even then they only just out number the Chinese.
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Muslim powers or rich arabs? - who will cease to be rich the moment the middle east oil wells dry up?... (unless they become the worlds number 1 exporters of glass I suppose.)
The majoriy of the muslim world resides in some of the poorest nations on the planet, think you'll find they are too busy trying to feed their oversized offspring to have time for world domination, if you think any substancial percentage of the worlds wealth and influence is in the hands of islamists you are badly mistaken. I guess they have 'man power', but even then they only just out number the Chinese.
Seeing as that the hardcore Islamists believe that it's a sin to charge or receive interest, they may be a bit hamstrung in the investment world.
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