Conversation with an Egyptian socialist - Page 2

Respenus · 02-23-11, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Whenever someone on the internet says you're a smart guy it's usually followed by a lengthy diatrabe about how stupid you are.

Seriously, no offense to you, but the way I see it Socialism is just a happy face disguise for Communism until it has cemented it's hold on power enough to turn into full Stalinism. I'd much rather have two parties eternally gridlocked in political battle than one party efficiently eliminating my right to self determination.

Now that you have pointed it out, it did sound pretentious and I do apologise. While I cannot completely agree with you (just look at European socialist or social-democratic parties and how many of them embrace and actively promote democracy (let's just leave immigration, identity and Muslims out of the discussion for now, lest we attract you know who

)), I take into account your specific point of view. That only thing I wanted to point out for the umpteenth time is that you should be wary of putting everything in the same basket and that the discussion should be more about human rights (another long discussion, which is better left alone for the clarity of this thread) than about ideology and the realisation that not everything on the left is glorious and that not everything on the right ensures the survival of human liberties.

That is all.

the_tyrant · 02-23-11, 04:14 PM

Oberon · 02-23-11, 04:17 PM

Haven't done one of these in a while...

August · 02-23-11, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

Here August, let's get some lobsta traps, some troll bait and go catch us some trolls for dinner.

Cool! Got my bait right here: "McCarthy was right. Alger Hiss was a dirty KGB spy!"

redsocialist · 02-23-11, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendor

After you've Mikhail Bakunin, Russian Anarchist in your signature, what is then your fundamental political value out

I am very open minded to all idealogies. Workers control over production is an ideal of anarchism and socialism. In Venezuela this is practiced, via indepently or through the state. The same in Argentina which is directly indepent through syndicalits

redsocialist · 02-23-11, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by the_tyrant

LMAO China already owns USA, and Americans have barley any manfacturing are in 14 trillion debt, and still borrowing from China... Ohh the Irony of that movie... The freedom really has been a lie though.

Penguin · 02-23-11, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by the_tyrant

Cool, where can I hire them?
They seem to be the modern version of the Heinzelmännchen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinzelm%C3%A4nnchen

(what does the character inside the star mean?)

Gerald · 02-23-11, 04:39 PM

On paper everything looks good but in reality is quite different from those countries which you describe, you have an approach that does not go with a planned economy of the countries want to develop without vocational, supervision and transparency

Takeda Shingen · 02-23-11, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by redsocialist

Capitalism explained:

frau kaleun · 02-23-11, 05:02 PM

the_tyrant · 02-23-11, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penguin

Cool, where can I hire them?
They seem to be the modern version of the Heinzelmännchen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinzelm%C3%A4nnchen

(what does the character inside the star mean?)

Its from the (not yet released) remake of red dawn
China attacks the US

the 八一inside the star means eight one, or august first
it's army day in China, the day the PLA was created
its now used as a symbol or "brand" of the PLA

Penguin · 02-23-11, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by the_tyrant

Its from the (not yet released) remake of red dawn
China attacks the US

the 八一inside the star means eight one, or august first
it's army day in China, the day the PLA was created
its now used as a symbol or "brand" of the PLA

ahh, thanks!
looking forward to the movie, so this time it's China, not Cuba...

redsocialist · 02-23-11, 08:23 PM

lol americans

frau kaleun · 02-23-11, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by redsocialist

lol people with a sense of humor

Fixed.

nikimcbee · 02-23-11, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_tyrant

Its from the (not yet released) remake of red dawn
China attacks the US

the 八一inside the star means eight one, or august first
it's army day in China, the day the PLA was created
its now used as a symbol or "brand" of the PLA

So you're saying August is a chinese communist

....And he lives in MA! It all makes sense now. ...and lobstahs are red when they are cooked!

Where's Mccarthy when you need him?

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