Obama to send more troops to Southwest border

[Weiss Pinguin]

I remember reading that AZ's governor requested UAV's and helicopters to beef up the border, but I dunno what became of that.

[Freiwillige]

I hate to burst you bubbles guys but this is a political ploy to look like they are doing something. Its a drop in the bucket and their hands are tied by PC crap. GW Bush used the same plan with more troops and the effect was almost nil.

They are there in a support role only, Apprehension is not allowed. Hell a group of four hundred could walk by and wave and they could only inform the Border Patrol which is completely understaffed and over stretched.

Obuma sent far more national guard to the oil spill regions then to defend our borders.

Same Joke different guy telling it.

[Zachstar]

Originally Posted by Weiss Pinguin

I remember reading that AZ's governor requested UAV's and helicopters to beef up the border, but I dunno what became of that.

Nothing except a few troops because nobody wants to give that trash of a state support except to look like being somewhat tough right now.

[Freiwillige]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Nothing except a few troops because nobody wants to give that trash of a state support except to look like being somewhat tough right now.

My state is not trash thank you. Its a beautiful place full of a wide and varied people and culture. Its desert, its woodlands, its history of Cowboy's and native Americans. It is easy for people across the country to form a media fueled opinion on what Racist bastards we are for wanting to boot out our illegal immigrants. Tolerance and peace, Whatever! I'm with AZ on this one big time. I have worked many job cites where even the hard working ones suddenly swipe your tool bag. They drive wages down across the board.

I feel sympathy for the children, The adults I have none. Get bigger buses!

[August]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Nothing except a few troops because nobody wants to give that trash of a state support except to look like being somewhat tough right now.

Sorry to burst your bubble but the rest of the nation considers Louisiana a way more trashy state than Arizona.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by Weiss Pinguin

I remember reading that AZ's governor requested UAV's and helicopters to beef up the border, but I dunno what became of that.

Nothing of course..

Almost like I expect nothing to become of the promised trooops.

On the bright side the use of UAV's is once again being at least discussed.

Which brings up another question. Dont they have sattellites capable of this sort of thing?

[Weiss Pinguin]

I imagine satellite coverage would not be inexpensive

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by Weiss Pinguin

I imagine satellite coverage would not be inexpensive

As opposed to over a thousand 'soldiers' UAV's etc?

What about that X3B thingy

By the way I just read in a news feed that these 1,200 'troops' are basically clerical agents un armed and there to 'gather information'.

Originally Posted by SteamWake

By the way I just read in a news feed that these 1,200 'troops' are basically clerical agents un armed and there to 'gather information'.

Seems the good press illusion is popped already.

Oh! By the way, there's a mechanic on his way to have a look at your broke down car, but he's not allowed to make any repairs. But don't worry, you'll still get a bill?!?!

Your government is calling it's citizens idiots.
Please prove them wrong.

[Weiss Pinguin]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

As opposed to over a thousand 'soldiers' UAV's etc?

What about that X3B thingy

By the way I just read in a news feed that these 1,200 'troops' are basically clerical agents un armed and there to 'gather information'.

Good point. And yeah, when I learned the 1200 guys being sent down weren't actually going to do anything, well

[Freiwillige]

And then there is this.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100527/...ico_usa_border

It seems our government is doing everything in its power to make sure it does as little as possible. The Joke is over and nobody's laughing anymore. Time to secure our nation at the voting booths!

[Zachstar]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

As opposed to over a thousand 'soldiers' UAV's etc?

What about that X3B thingy

By the way I just read in a news feed that these 1,200 'troops' are basically clerical agents un armed and there to 'gather information'.

Do you have ANY idea how much it costs the CIA to run its birds? Nobody does but the rumor is VERY VERY VERY expensive. Also they are useless for detecting unlawful entry because thermal optics lose resolution fast with distance if you want to see anything at all. You can have something as small and hot as a fighter engine on afterburner or large area like a cloud formation but you cant have both.

While that trash state wont get any UAVs are far better at the role. The people who do it often and guide others across know how to listen for a helo approaching and know how to hide the group but a UAV at altitude is nearly silent to the ground it can track a group and learn of trails and other areas they like to use before directing enforcement to the region. A UAV is far cheaper and its estimated that thousands have been caught due to the limited deployment of them already.

[Zachstar]

Originally Posted by Freiwillige

And then there is this.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100527/...ico_usa_border

It seems our government is doing everything in its power to make sure it does as little as possible. The Joke is over and nobody's laughing anymore. Time to secure our nation at the voting booths!

So you are calling the Minutemen "jokes" right? As all they do is the same thing. Watch and report.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Nothing except a few troops because nobody wants to give that trash of a state support except to look like being somewhat tough right now.

Arizona is a not a trash state.I do not live there but have ties there and have visited many times.The Law is NOT racist, it forbids racial profiling in fact, stop buying into the crap from the Left. Officers cant just come ask for papers etc.They must have contact with you for another reason, say a traffic stop or they catch illegals doing some of their favorite activities like pushing/using drugs, prostitutes, fights, DUI's, hit and runs etc and if suspect you may be an illegal, they can inquire.Nothing to worry about unless you are well, an illegal immigrant because you will get arrested and hopefully deported.

The real "trash" are the people who come to the US illegally, violating our laws and feel entitled to stay when others who have respect are waiting in line to come here.The real "trash" are people who come here illegally and punch out 4 or 5 children and then send them to our already drained public schools. Color does not matter, just at the moment the issue is with the southern border and most who come here illegally across that border happen to be hispanic.The other "trash" involved are people who enable them and try to cause harm to a state that is just standing up for itself and to get a serious problem under control because the Fed govt has failed to do so, which it has the right to do.

[Bubblehead1980]

Having said all that, this is just a stunt from Obama to try ward off some of his critics.This guy is pro illegal immigrant, open borders etc