Explain something about the online DRM buisness model. - Page 2

BarjackU977 · 04-16-10, 01:03 AM

Seriously, then. Got real :-)

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Originally Posted by kylania

They've done it before...

Spartan · 04-16-10, 01:19 AM

Hmmm... So has the DRM on SHIII or IV been removed yet?

Also look at all the DRM servers that were shut down in other markets such as music and TV shows. Those people did not get the DRM removed and lost access to stuff they purchased and in fact some where flat out told to buy new stuff.

A recent case in point in the gaming market is that M$ decided to turn of DRM support for the original X-box and all its titles this week. I wonder how long it will be before the people that still play those games get any updates....

DRM is pure evil dont ever believe otherwise. It is properly called digital restrictions management. It has nothing to do with rights...

Zedi · 04-16-10, 01:49 AM

Geeez.. another drm thread

As Placoderm said, these are not dedicated servers, there is only one that support all their games. When these games will get old, they may release a drm removal patch, maybe in a year or so. I can't believe how much energy is waisted on these anti drm crap topics.. over and over again.

BarjackU977 · 04-16-10, 02:15 AM

If you read more of the above posts, you'll find that there are people who doubt that the DRM will ever be removed by Ubi from its games.

Anti-DRM crap? Waisted energy?
I suppose you expected the coming of "can't believe how much energy is waisted replying to topics they don't want to read, and claim to be crap" in the next reply.

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Originally Posted by Magnum

Geeez.. another drm thread

As Placoderm said, these are not dedicated servers, there is only one that support all their games. When these games will get old, they may release a drm removal patch, maybe in a year or so. I can't believe how much energy is waisted on these anti drm crap topics.. over and over again.

Zedi · 04-16-10, 03:04 AM

No, the issues is that this drm bashing and "SH3 si better that SH5" is really old story and uber-boring. I thought we are done with it and ppl can move on. But no, almost every day, or at least once a week this topic come up in a form or another again and again where ppl keep repeating the same thing.. drm suck, SH3 rulz. If is not a dedicated topic, than someone will get offtopic in other threads where we talk about SH5 bugs and remind us that dmr suck/sh3 rulz. Over and over again.

Maybe the moderators should make a new forum for those who enjoy to keep up endless talks about how evil drm is and how cool SH3 was.

And yes, drm will get removed, but not now, so get over it.

HundertzehnGustav · 04-16-10, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

How... do you continue to pay for those ongoing costs once the sales of the product begin to dry up?

You dont...

you remove the DRM, let the users play without the connection
or
unify the server system with the one from assasins creed II (can be done because players moved on to ACIII and SHVI, or because there are less players)
or
remove the support and tell the players to ******!!

The MOMENT that income is less than cost, you change either number, either increasing income or cutting costs.

HundertzehnGustav · 04-16-10, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Magnum

Maybe the moderators should make a new forum for those who enjoy to keep up endless talks about how evil drm is and how cool SH3 was.

what about the freedom to post your anger of a game you got right there?
not saying anyting, or shutting up after a while is the same as "taking that stick right up wour wazoo"

Back to topic...

-Servers will be removed,
-unified with other systems because of less players,
or
-drm will be removed.

Placoderm · 04-16-10, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by kylania

They've done it before...

OMG...

(nevermind...)

Sgt. Emren · 04-16-10, 05:24 AM

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How... do you continue to pay for those ongoing costs once the sales of the product begin to dry up?

You sell add-ons. Pipeline extension. Extend SHV to 1945. Make SHV Pacific. Etc.

BarjackU977 · 04-16-10, 05:48 AM

Well, personally, I keep on coming here because I keep hopes.
I've been seriously tempted to buy SH5. I try to stick to my principles, but should Ubi change its DRM plans or announce that it will be removed after x months, I'll buy it, even if I that means can't temporary play the game on my laptop whenever I travel.

The issue does not get old for me. This DRM is still new, a recent change. And it applies to SH5, so it's discussed here too.

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Originally Posted by Magnum

No, the issues is that this drm bashing and "SH3 si better that SH5" is really old story and uber-boring.

Spartan · 04-16-10, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magnum

No, the issues is that this drm bashing and "SH3 si better that SH5" is really old story and uber-boring. I thought we are done with it and ppl can move on. But no, almost every day, or at least once a week this topic come up in a form or another again and again where ppl keep repeating the same thing.. drm suck, SH3 rulz. If is not a dedicated topic, than someone will get offtopic in other threads where we talk about SH5 bugs and remind us that dmr suck/sh3 rulz. Over and over again.

Maybe the moderators should make a new forum for those who enjoy to keep up endless talks about how evil drm is and how cool SH3 was.

And yes, drm will get removed, but not now, so get over it.

Yeah and some fellow named Jesus will return after 2k years of being dead....

Please lets not troll. Back up your position with facts - K?

Ubi has a long history of not doing right towards its paying customers. So people are well within reason to doubt promises of the "it will happen - one day - trust me.." nature.

So has the DRM been patched out of SH3 or SH4 yet? One would think that given a whole new version of the title was released that surely such a thing would have been done for the prior versions.

Zedi · 04-16-10, 06:51 AM

Just after few hours, we have another drm topic launched on SH5 forum.. with a "slightly different viewpoint"... now you see my point?

Most of us come here to discuss about SH5, not to read about drm and other personal issues, like not buying the game. We/I don't care if ppl buy or not the game, if they think that sh3 was better or if drm suck, I really don't care. All I care here is to make SH5 better and bug free, so we can enjoy it more.

Barjack, my personal advice for you is to buy it. If you have a stable internet connection, there is no reason to not buy it instead of joining the "omg drm suck" group. SH5 has a huge potential to become best in the series and these great moders here on subsim already solved many problems through some excelent mods.

Ablemaster · 04-16-10, 06:59 AM

Hell im sick and tired of DRM threads, we all know about it and are well educated in its use. Cant all this DRM S*IT go in one bucket. Its bad just got to live with it for now.

Der Teddy Bar · 04-16-10, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Ablemaster

Hell im sick and tired of DRM threads, we all know about it and are well educated in its use. Cant all this DRM S*IT go in one bucket. Its bad just got to live with it for now.

To the best of my knowledge no one is forcing you to read these threads.

SteamWake · 04-16-10, 08:31 AM

I figured this would happen even when I asked kindly to refrain from the bashing of DRM and simply discuss the buisness model some of you cant help yourselfs.

If you continue to bash or even praise DRM I will ask for this thread to be closed.

Now back on topic please... Is it a viable buisness model?

04-16-10, 06:59 AM	#28
Ablemaster An able master Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: England Posts: 274 Downloads: 121 Uploads: 5	Hell im sick and tired of DRM threads, we all know about it and are well educated in its use. Cant all this DRM S*IT go in one bucket. Its bad just got to live with it for now. __________________

04-16-10, 08:31 AM	#30
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I figured this would happen even when I asked kindly to refrain from the bashing of DRM and simply discuss the buisness model some of you cant help yourselfs. If you continue to bash or even praise DRM I will ask for this thread to be closed. Now back on topic please... Is it a viable buisness model? __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

04-16-10, 01:19 AM	#17
Spartan Sailor man Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 50 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hmmm... So has the DRM on SHIII or IV been removed yet? Also look at all the DRM servers that were shut down in other markets such as music and TV shows. Those people did not get the DRM removed and lost access to stuff they purchased and in fact some where flat out told to buy new stuff. A recent case in point in the gaming market is that M$ decided to turn of DRM support for the original X-box and all its titles this week. I wonder how long it will be before the people that still play those games get any updates.... DRM is pure evil dont ever believe otherwise. It is properly called digital restrictions management. It has nothing to do with rights...

04-16-10, 01:49 AM	#18
Zedi Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,845 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 2	Geeez.. another drm thread As Placoderm said, these are not dedicated servers, there is only one that support all their games. When these games will get old, they may release a drm removal patch, maybe in a year or so. I can't believe how much energy is waisted on these anti drm crap topics.. over and over again.

04-16-10, 03:04 AM	#20
Zedi Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,845 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 2	No, the issues is that this drm bashing and "SH3 si better that SH5" is really old story and uber-boring. I thought we are done with it and ppl can move on. But no, almost every day, or at least once a week this topic come up in a form or another again and again where ppl keep repeating the same thing.. drm suck, SH3 rulz. If is not a dedicated topic, than someone will get offtopic in other threads where we talk about SH5 bugs and remind us that dmr suck/sh3 rulz. Over and over again. Maybe the moderators should make a new forum for those who enjoy to keep up endless talks about how evil drm is and how cool SH3 was. And yes, drm will get removed, but not now, so get over it.

04-16-10, 06:51 AM	#27
Zedi Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,845 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 2	Just after few hours, we have another drm topic launched on SH5 forum.. with a "slightly different viewpoint"... now you see my point? Most of us come here to discuss about SH5, not to read about drm and other personal issues, like not buying the game. We/I don't care if ppl buy or not the game, if they think that sh3 was better or if drm suck, I really don't care. All I care here is to make SH5 better and bug free, so we can enjoy it more. Barjack, my personal advice for you is to buy it. If you have a stable internet connection, there is no reason to not buy it instead of joining the "omg drm suck" group. SH5 has a huge potential to become best in the series and these great moders here on subsim already solved many problems through some excelent mods.