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robbo180265 · 04-15-10, 03:03 PM

yeah you're right Placoderm. That photo really shows it well , the best I've seen to be honest.

Oh.... and I love your sig

captainprid · 04-15-10, 03:38 PM

Dazzle Paint.....

walsh2509 · 04-15-10, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcarlsonus

140 METERS maybe (nearly 460 feet); definitely not, "140 ft from the Bismark," (ahem, BismarCk!), which would be only 42.7 meters.

Bismarck was 251 meters/823 feet overall.

It Definitely WAS 140ft as you say 42.7mts from it

Sailor Steve · 04-15-10, 04:03 PM

Bismarck from Prinz Eugen.

captainprid · 04-15-10, 06:29 PM

Which photo mate??

04-15-10, 07:22 PM

Nope.. no pic dude.

04-15-10, 07:39 PM

Here's both the Bismark and a VIIC 3D objects side by side.
They are from SH5

04-15-10, 07:50 PM

Nope.
It's not.

Doing quick measurements on the objects?
They appear to be scaled correctly.
Aside from the wrong measurement in the cfg file for the Bismark.
270 meters is wrong.

04-15-10, 08:11 PM

Still not working.

Lognoreng · 04-15-10, 08:12 PM

My guess is that if you position the boat alongside the ship and look in external view it would look correct. Comparing size with something you have close in view with something further away is tricky. Also there is the camera FOV that makes it appear out of proportion.

And the bismarck photo, it actually took me a few seconds to realize that the ship was a lot longer than it appeared at first glance. I do feel that the b/w photo enhances the effect

Oh, and making a 3d model a bit bigger would not require more polygons, since smooth surfaces are made by applying a smoothing effect on the polygons, And the effect would remain intact regardless. The only problem with larger models is that the texture surface is being stretched. Which could make it appear less detailed at closer range.

04-15-10, 08:19 PM

The 3D models are correct.
Models are built with a setting of 1 Unit = 1 Meter in 3D Max
The Granny exporter reduces the scale for the Game Engine's settings.
So when exported?
They are reduced in size.
But the scale between Units is exact.
No Unit is imported at a different scale that I have found to date.
That would be suicide to do!
We'd catch that in a Heart Beat!
Then the 'Burn The Witches!' stuff would start.

THE_MASK · 04-15-10, 08:23 PM

What about the damn trees .

04-15-10, 08:38 PM

I guess I'll have to check those now?

04-15-10, 08:47 PM

Checked the Tropical Trees.
They seem OK but I'm not a Tree hugger so
not sure if some may be out of scale.
Those use several square objects to paint the trees.
So the object may be larger then what is painted in Game.
But I'll check further just to ease minds.

theluckyone17 · 04-15-10, 10:23 PM

I'm not concerned about the scale of the trees...

... but do the trees have dynamic shadows? And are the shadows nice and crisp, or bad and fuzzy?

04-15-10, 04:03 PM	#19
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Bismarck from Prinz Eugen. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

04-15-10, 03:03 PM	#16
robbo180265 Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brighton, England.Party capital of the south Posts: 2,255 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	yeah you're right Placoderm. That photo really shows it well , the best I've seen to be honest. Oh.... and I love your sig

04-15-10, 03:38 PM	#17
captainprid Watch Officer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Blackpool, England Posts: 347 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	Dazzle Paint.....

04-15-10, 06:29 PM	#20
captainprid Watch Officer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Blackpool, England Posts: 347 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	Which photo mate??

04-15-10, 07:22 PM	#21
Kptlt_Lynch Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Nope.. no pic dude.

04-15-10, 07:39 PM	#22
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Here's both the Bismark and a VIIC 3D objects side by side. They are from SH5

04-15-10, 07:50 PM	#23
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Nope. It's not. Doing quick measurements on the objects? They appear to be scaled correctly. Aside from the wrong measurement in the cfg file for the Bismark. 270 meters is wrong.

04-15-10, 08:11 PM	#24
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Still not working.

04-15-10, 08:12 PM	#25
Lognoreng A-ganger Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 75 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	My guess is that if you position the boat alongside the ship and look in external view it would look correct. Comparing size with something you have close in view with something further away is tricky. Also there is the camera FOV that makes it appear out of proportion. And the bismarck photo, it actually took me a few seconds to realize that the ship was a lot longer than it appeared at first glance. I do feel that the b/w photo enhances the effect Oh, and making a 3d model a bit bigger would not require more polygons, since smooth surfaces are made by applying a smoothing effect on the polygons, And the effect would remain intact regardless. The only problem with larger models is that the texture surface is being stretched. Which could make it appear less detailed at closer range.

04-15-10, 08:19 PM	#26
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	The 3D models are correct. Models are built with a setting of 1 Unit = 1 Meter in 3D Max The Granny exporter reduces the scale for the Game Engine's settings. So when exported? They are reduced in size. But the scale between Units is exact. No Unit is imported at a different scale that I have found to date. That would be suicide to do! We'd catch that in a Heart Beat! Then the 'Burn The Witches!' stuff would start.

04-15-10, 08:23 PM	#27
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	What about the damn trees .

04-15-10, 08:38 PM	#28
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I guess I'll have to check those now?

04-15-10, 08:47 PM	#29
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Checked the Tropical Trees. They seem OK but I'm not a Tree hugger so not sure if some may be out of scale. Those use several square objects to paint the trees. So the object may be larger then what is painted in Game. But I'll check further just to ease minds.

04-15-10, 10:23 PM	#30
theluckyone17 Captain Join Date: May 2006 Location: Niskayuna, NY Posts: 482 Downloads: 103 Uploads: 0	I'm not concerned about the scale of the trees... ... but do the trees have dynamic shadows? And are the shadows nice and crisp, or bad and fuzzy?