Amnesty...

In Britain they run a campaign, "give your vote", where British citizens with the right to vote are called to pass on their right and give their voting right to foreigners in foreign countries, preferrably Afghanistan, Ghana and what was the third one? Iraq? That way foreign people should get a chance and feel invited to vote for the British parliament on the other side of the planet. It makes them participating in the democractic process in good ol' damn insane totally crazy Britain.

This should be good, where on earth has Skybird found this mysterious change to the electoral laws?
Is it in a secret treaty written up by the muslims EU and Illuminati by any chance?

To further elaborate on the 10's of thousands of immagrants in the country illegally also cannot participate in democracy amongst other things. Amnisty would make them 'instant citizens' and voters indebted and greatfull for their new found citizenship.

What utter bollox.
Have the previous "amnesties" given instant citizenship?
If people given "amnesty" under those moves eventualy got citizenship were they eternally gratefull to the republican party in all subsequent elections?

[SteamWake]

Which amnesty are you talking about?

The one that was proposed by the Bush administration and was soundly rebuked?

Which amnesty are you talking about?

The one that was proposed by the Bush administration and was soundly rebuked?

The one Reagan approved and signed into law would be a start

[SteamWake]

The Act made it illegal to knowingly hire or recruit illegal immigrants (immigrants who do not possess lawful work authorization), required employers to attest to their employees' immigration status, and granted amnesty to certain illegal immigrants who entered the United States before January 1, 1982 and had resided there continuously. The Act also granted a path towards legalization to certain agricultural seasonal workers and immigrants who had been continuously and illegally present in the United States since January 1, 1982

Oh yes that one... not quite the sweeping reform you elude to. Read the language there. You wont see any of these sort of restrictions in whats comming nor will you see any 'path towards legalization'.

[Bubblehead1980]

Thing is we could easily stop illegal immigration and save America.National Guard on border, shoot people who are caught crossing illegally.Fine people HEAVILY or take their business license if they employ legals.Round up illegals, no questions asked and deport them.Sounds harsh and the touchy feely libs out there would prob slit their wrists, but would solve the problem fast.We have to do something before the hispanic vote is more powerful and it will be too late, would hate to see us end up like Mexico etc We're not getting the cream of the crop either from these places , just dumb ignorant people who breed like rabbits and cause us nothing but problems.

One of the few things I dislike about Reagan is his amnesty but even the gipper was not perfect.

Oh yes that one... not quite the sweeping reform you elude to.

I refer to a bill, elements of which are described as an amnesty.
Whereas you allude to a wingnuit conspiracy version of bill that doesn't even exist.
So "sweeping reform" is only applicable to your own nonsensical claim.

You wont see any of these sort of restrictions in whats comming

Ah the imaginary legislation again, yes it is hard to see restrictions in non existant legislation.

nor will you see any 'path towards legalization'

Is there some legal restriction on those drugs, they must be damn wierd to give hallucinations that strong.

[XabbaRus]

The thing Skybird is referring to isn't an official project backed by the government, it is a project by the Egality organisation.

http://giveyourvote.org/

http://egalitynow.org/
I personally think its nuts but I think Skybird hasn't presented it well, he made it out to look like something official.

[edit]
Doing some more digging and nothing but comes up for Marxist Egality organisation but a link to the BNP website comes close to top of google list with a link to what I posted above.

However I found this on wikipedia too...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giveyourvote

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

The thing Skybird is referring to isn't an official project backed by the government, it is a project by the Marxist Egality organisation.

http://giveyourvote.org/

Link. Just a crazy idea by do goody idealists...

Ah, yes, blind humanism with a backdoor advocacy for the death of culture.

[Oberon]

UK votes are barely worth the paper they're written on anyway, it's been a two horse race for years and both horses are lame.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

I personally think its nuts but I think Skybird hasn't presented it well, he made it out to look like something official.

While I did not go into the detail (or lack of...), I did not indicate it is something run by government authorities. It is a public run campaign and they claim to already have gotten several thousand such "votes".

I could not believe it when I read about it first.

[CaptainHaplo]

Whats amazingly stupid about such a "project" is that there is no safeguard. Ok - so you want to "give your vote" to someone in Ghana. All it takes is one of the "Egalitarians" to decide that all the votes were to go for a specific party - and suddenly you have a single entity controlling the votes of who knows how many.

Ultimately - you abrogate your right to vote, you deserve the trash you end up with.

I just wonder how the US ended up with the trash we have in the white house and majority of congress. *Actually I know - but still....

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

Really?? I thought you were talking about felons. Why would illegals get instant citizenship? And the right to vote?

Well, we're already going to be a Latin American country in 100 years, I guess this would accelerate it. If true.

Well out west was Mexico you know. Did you think everyone just headed back over the new border?

[JetSnake]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

The one Reagan approved and signed into law would be a start

That was a poison pill the dems put into the bill. I don't know why that wasn't vetoed, but it was probably one of those bills that would have had worse consequences to have vetoed it than passing it. Reagan was still the best president of the past 150 years, including that chud occupying the white house now.

[Freiwillige]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Well out west was Mexico you know. Did you think everyone just headed back over the new border?

The simple answer is Yes. After the U.S beat Mexico in the Mexican American war we firmly booted all Mexican Nationals right across the newly established border. The when we later bought more land off of Mexico we did the same.

Back then it was common to fill America with Anglo-Saxon stock. I mean if we put the native Americans on reservations what makes you believe that Mexican nationals would be roaming freely?

That was a poison pill the dems put into the bill. I don't know why that wasn't vetoed

It wasn't vetoed because Republican politicians don't really care about the issue any more than democrat ones do.
The supporterrs of the parties may make all the noise they like but the politicians know the reality.

The simple answer is Yes. After the U.S beat Mexico in the Mexican American war we firmly booted all Mexican Nationals right across the newly established border.

Bloody hell.
So was this Mexican-American war where the treaty ending it gave the option of citizenship to the mexicans on the new territory as well as recogning land ownership of mexicans or is it some fictional war you invented?

The when we later bought more land off of Mexico we did the same.

At least that is correct, under various treaties and protocols the mexicans got pretty much the same treatment under the purchases as they got after the war.....though of course Freiwillige doesn't know about those real events and got it backwards.

Whats amazingly stupid about such a "project" is that there is no safeguard. Ok - so you want to "give your vote" to someone in Ghana. All it takes is one of the "Egalitarians" to decide that all the votes were to go for a specific party - and suddenly you have a single entity controlling the votes of who knows how many.

Whats amazing about that statement is that with the process they have over in Britain, if someone from the "egalitarian" idiots were to decide all the votes were to go to one party and could manage to pull it off they would have a handfull of votes spread throughout hundreds of constituancies which would count for nothing even if they could find a "marxist" party in any of those constituancies to vote for.