Chill Winston! (Neal vs OSP - youtube vid!) - Page 2

02-18-10, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nordmann

Heh. As we all know, graphics make the game! Never mind that the rest of it is incomplete or broken, at least we can admire the scenery while the game is OSP paused.

With all due respect, I don't know that "graphics make the game!" And I really don't want to "know" that.

Onkel Neal · 02-18-10, 04:23 PM

While playing the second mission in the campaign, I decided to disconnect my cable again and leave it disconnected. It took around 6 or 7 minutes but it finally called me out

Heretic · 02-18-10, 04:26 PM

What did it do after that, Neal? Pause or kick you out?

The Enigma · 02-18-10, 04:26 PM

@Neal:
When this happens, do you need to login again, our does it proceed from where it stopped?

Onkel Neal · 02-18-10, 05:17 PM

To be honest, I only tried it once and then the game crashed. I'm pretty sure that's not part of the design. So I will test it again with the review copy. If DRM is a concern for anyone, as with the quality of the game, and your "hard-earned $50"© is crucial for your survival as a human being, they should definitely wait for reviews.

The Enigma · 02-18-10, 05:27 PM

DRM/OSP is certainly very important to me.
However to be able to play a game is not crucial to my survival LOL.

So let's wait and see what a review will learn..

longam · 02-18-10, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

, and your "hard-earned $50"© is crucial for your survival as a human being, they should definitely wait for reviews.

Har

oscar19681 · 02-18-10, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

While playing the second mission in the campaign, I decided to disconnect my cable again and leave it disconnected. It took around 6 or 7 minutes but it finally called me out

Did the preview version come with a campaing as well? Uhm wait , why am i asking a question that has allready been awnsered. Doh!

FIREWALL · 02-18-10, 07:00 PM

Nice vid Neal.

I don't think it's the 50 bucks that are crucial to anyones survival.

It's being able to play it anytime, anyplace and anywhere includeing in flight to a SubSim meet.

Sailor Steve · 02-18-10, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunnodayak

With all due respect, I don't know that "graphics make the game!" And I really don't want to "know" that.

It was sarcasm. It doesn't always translate well. He was actually saying the opposite of what he really meant, and over-exaggerating the meaning as well, especially when he said "Never mind that the rest of it is incomplete or broken..."

SteamWake · 02-18-10, 09:56 PM

jwilliams · 02-18-10, 10:48 PM

My real concern with OSP is what happens if you get disconnected and you haven't saved for awhile?

Yeah having to be connected isnt ideal but i could live with OSP if progress since last manual save isnt lost and it behaves as Neals copy does (no pause if connection is lost for a short time).

What happens if you haven't saved for 2hrs or more? Can you save your game on the disconnect screen or do you lose everything you've done since last save?

Save more often you say....

But what if SH5 has same bugs as 3, Cant save while submerged!!, Cant save within 50km of a port etc. (I've spent over 6 hours submerged while being depth charged in shallow water with SH3 before i could surface to save (I would be seriously pi**ed if i got disconnected and lost the last 6hrs of progress)).

Losing such a large amount of progress (time) would IMO be a game breaker!!!

They will release a patch to fix save bug you say.....

They didnt fix SH3 save bugs, what makes you think they'll fix SH5?

This game was a def buy on release for me, but with OSP im going to have to wait til i know that my progress wont be lost if i get disconnected.

@ Neal :-
Please can you test this when you review SH5. Me buying the game depends on the answer.
thx

Nordmann · 02-19-10, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

It was sarcasm. It doesn't always translate well. He was actually saying the opposite of what he really meant, and over-exaggerating the meaning as well, especially when he said "Never mind that the rest of it is incomplete or broken..."

Yes, I rather thought it was obvious, especially with the last part. But never mind, too subtle for some it would seem.

02-19-10, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nordmann

Yes, I rather thought it was obvious, especially with the last part. But never mind, too subtle for some it would seem.

You're wrong, it's not subtle at all. But after I've read the first part, with the "graphics", I thought that you are, like others are here, an RPG fan, and I've stopped reading, I am already saturated of this kind of stuff. I've told you that just no tot give you the false impression that you are smarter or more poethic than you actually are.

Frederf · 02-19-10, 04:56 AM

Call me cynical but I am guessing UBI didn't put the full OSP DRM into the preview copies to try to misinform the public and make sure the initial wave of customers that buy the game don't have fair warning as the full reviews haven't been made.

02-18-10, 04:23 PM	#17
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,383 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	While playing the second mission in the campaign, I decided to disconnect my cable again and leave it disconnected. It took around 6 or 7 minutes but it finally called me out __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

02-18-10, 04:26 PM	#18
Heretic Commodore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nebraska Posts: 617 Downloads: 240 Uploads: 2	What did it do after that, Neal? Pause or kick you out? __________________ - heretic I enjoy drinking beer. MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 - Updated 22 March MightyFine Less Annoying Footsteps Crew AI Scripting Information

02-18-10, 04:26 PM	#19
The Enigma Seer of visions Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Under the surface Posts: 2,315 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	@Neal: When this happens, do you need to login again, our does it proceed from where it stopped? __________________

02-18-10, 05:17 PM	#20
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,383 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	To be honest, I only tried it once and then the game crashed. I'm pretty sure that's not part of the design. So I will test it again with the review copy. If DRM is a concern for anyone, as with the quality of the game, and your "hard-earned $50"© is crucial for your survival as a human being, they should definitely wait for reviews. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

02-18-10, 05:27 PM	#21
The Enigma Seer of visions Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Under the surface Posts: 2,315 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	DRM/OSP is certainly very important to me. However to be able to play a game is not crucial to my survival LOL. So let's wait and see what a review will learn.. __________________

02-18-10, 07:00 PM	#24
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Nice vid Neal. I don't think it's the 50 bucks that are crucial to anyones survival. It's being able to play it anytime, anyplace and anywhere includeing in flight to a SubSim meet. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

02-18-10, 09:56 PM	#26
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	__________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

02-18-10, 10:48 PM	#27
jwilliams Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,013 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	Save Game? My real concern with OSP is what happens if you get disconnected and you haven't saved for awhile? Yeah having to be connected isnt ideal but i could live with OSP if progress since last manual save isnt lost and it behaves as Neals copy does (no pause if connection is lost for a short time). What happens if you haven't saved for 2hrs or more? Can you save your game on the disconnect screen or do you lose everything you've done since last save? Save more often you say.... But what if SH5 has same bugs as 3, Cant save while submerged!!, Cant save within 50km of a port etc. (I've spent over 6 hours submerged while being depth charged in shallow water with SH3 before i could surface to save (I would be seriously pi**ed if i got disconnected and lost the last 6hrs of progress)). Losing such a large amount of progress (time) would IMO be a game breaker!!! They will release a patch to fix save bug you say..... They didnt fix SH3 save bugs, what makes you think they'll fix SH5? This game was a def buy on release for me, but with OSP im going to have to wait til i know that my progress wont be lost if i get disconnected. @ Neal :- Please can you test this when you review SH5. Me buying the game depends on the answer. thx

02-19-10, 04:56 AM	#30
Frederf Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 665 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 1	Call me cynical but I am guessing UBI didn't put the full OSP DRM into the preview copies to try to misinform the public and make sure the initial wave of customers that buy the game don't have fair warning as the full reviews haven't been made.