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Old 01-31-10, 01:12 PM   #16
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is in the works, are you sure?

Wikipedia says the release date of Danger from the Deep was october 12 2006...

If it would be great, seems to me like there should have a forum here about it?

I made a quick search but didn't find any Danger from the Deep 2 under work.
The forum here would be in the 'indie' (independent) section. But yes, they're working on it, you can even download a beta version. Who knows when it will be ready though... But I guess my point was that there is not only Ubi for subsims.
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Old 02-01-10, 02:45 AM   #17
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Meh.

There were subsims before the SH series, there'll be subsims after...

No-one or nothing is indispensable - one leaves, one takes its place...

Thanks to the actions of publishers and goods/service providers in general, the days of blind loyalty, at least for me, are long gone. It's all transaction based now.

No big deal - I'm happy with SH3. And I'll be happy with Naughty Bear and Fable III which will both take SH5's place on my bookshelf, at least until some "issues" that I have are addressed.
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Old 02-01-10, 09:28 AM   #18
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Like I said Meo, don't worry about subsims. One will be out sooner or later from somebody. Already another U-boat sim is in the works, Danger from the Deep.

Sure, there will be other sub games, but I'm willing to bet we won't see anything as good as SH3 or SH4 for ten years. Remember the days when simulations were very common? That was the late '90s.

When was the last really good tanksim?
Or helosim? (Blackshark?)
When was the last good battleship simulation?

And before anyone answers, be sure to check what people are saying about this or that sim that you think is "good"
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Old 02-01-10, 09:55 AM   #19
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Sure, there will be other sub games, but I'm willing to bet we won't see anything as good as SH3 or SH4 for ten years. <snip>
Absolutely. That is, unfortunately, possible. Like I mentioned the 'only' problem might be long gaps between titles. But you know, for me, I would rather one good subsim every 10 years (Aces, SH3) than a bunch of mediocre ones pushed out every 3.
But yeah, I guess it would suck to play the next good subsim when we're in our late 80's. But I'd show those young whipper snatchers how it's done, by golly!
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Old 02-01-10, 10:00 AM   #20
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Silent Hunter V feels to me more and more like a game that will try and be all things to all people and end up pleasing nobody.

As for the future; I think all games will be server driven with the emphasis on eye candy.
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Old 02-01-10, 10:16 AM   #21
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As for the future; I think all games will be server driven with the emphasis on eye candy.
That is one sick, twisted, dystopian future you're painting there. Scary...
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Old 02-01-10, 10:29 AM   #22
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What will happen to the series? I'd say one of four choices:

1. It will be a huge hit and sell millions of copies like SH3.

2. It will rapidly reach crush depth soon after release and disappear.

3. It will do just well enough to limp along -- a sort of steady state.

4. It will be somewhere in between the first three choices, or an amalgam of two or more. Or not.

But no matter what happens, whether the game succeeds or tanks or whatever, SOME company somewhere will eventually make another submarine simulation. Why? Because they're not stupid. They will look back on SH3 and say, "Hey, those guys made a killing off that game. Maybe we can to, if we do it right."

Unlike some simmers I am not at all pessimistic that if we "don't support UBI" we will never see another sub sim again. There's money to be made in them thar hills, or ocean depths, if you will. Some company, somewhere, will go after it.

So chillax, people.
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Old 02-01-10, 10:41 AM   #23
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Somehow this thread reminds me of Dynamix
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Old 02-01-10, 03:24 PM   #24
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The Romanians have spoiled us badly, and like most spoiled children, we don't realize it (not using "children" as an insult, count me in that category too).
So very, very true
People forget that despite Silent Hunters flaws (& DRM), the chance of there being a future subim which surpasses its quality - is very VERY slim.
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Old 02-01-10, 03:26 PM   #25
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If we has an IL2 of the subsim world we would all be ecstatic.
1C know how to do things.
Is that the one that has never had a dynamic campaign?
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Old 02-01-10, 03:32 PM   #26
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Is that the one that has never had a dynamic campaign?

No..Il2 has a inbuilt dynamic campaign system and the flexibility to
allow modders to write programs that interface with IL2 and act as
custom campaign generators.

It's good that way.
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Old 02-01-10, 03:34 PM   #27
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No..Il2 has a inbuilt dynamic campaign system and the flexibility to
allow modders to write programs that interface with IL2 and act as
custom campaign generators.

It's good that way.
Oh, okay. I thought I had read in the past people complaining about that. Thanks for straightening it out.
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Old 02-01-10, 03:38 PM   #28
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Is that the one that has never had a dynamic campaign?
hold on, the CFS3 Dynamic Campaign was SOOOOOO much better!

Il-2 has semi dynamic campaign, and there is always DCG, developped to our days standards. PLUS the hundreds of offline campaigns available...

Thousands of Racetracks, tens of thousands od Simple missions...

Il2 did, in the end, not lack much, campaign wise.
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Old 02-01-10, 03:45 PM   #29
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And let's not forget the online dynamic campaigns!
Now they rock.
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>>What will become of the Silent Hunter Series?


Probably nothing.
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