[QUE] Boycott / mass dynamic things not allowed? - Page 2

urfisch · 01-26-10, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

they in fact ARE important to me

I AM rather upset about a lot of it

difference is...

im just being fair and unbiased

FAIR, is a word, that not seems to count very much these days in business...

IanC · 01-26-10, 05:59 PM

It's not so complicated. Subsim.com wants to keep good relations with Ubisoft. So you can't use subsim.com as a vehicle to inflict any financial damage to Ubisoft.

GoldenRivet · 01-26-10, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by urfisch

FAIR, is a word, that not seems to count very much these days in business...

true, but I learned very young in life that you dont always get what you want.... nor do you always get exactly what you thought you were going to get.

All im saying is walking into the SH5 forum is like walking into an out of control kindergarten class room.

Some of the kids are merrily playing with the building blocks or coloring, the rest are crying and stomping up and down because of a hundred different reasons.

it only takes five seconds to sit up straight and tall, and say to yourself "Im going to be a grown man about this and reserve my judgements until all of the evidence is available."

sadly, thats WAY too much for some folks to do.

Safe-Keeper · 01-26-10, 06:03 PM

Wow. Over-reacting much?

I can perfectly well understand why Subsim is shutting down stupid "boycott" threads, and Subsim is a private forum, free to be run as it pleases the owner.

Gilbou · 01-26-10, 06:06 PM

Calling for Boycott is too much.
Not buying the game, buying it and not being happy about some of its limitations (or seen as such) or delaying the buy until there's a Subsim review is a matter of personnal choice.

Calling for boycott is like.. trying to impose what you think is right to others, which I do think is wrong. Let each person choose and that's it.

ETR3(SS) · 01-26-10, 06:09 PM

Calling for a boycott and telling someone to boycott a game are two different things. I don't recall reading any post telling (aka demanding) people to boycott SH5.

GoldenRivet · 01-26-10, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

Calling for a boycott and telling someone to boycott a game are two different things. I don't recall reading any post telling (aka demanding) people to boycott SH5.

I simply point you here

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...0&postcount=17

Letum · 01-26-10, 06:14 PM

Under that logic Subsim could never give a negative game review.

GoldenRivet · 01-26-10, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

Under that logic Subsim could never give a negative game review.

an honest in depth review is one thing.

a full on boycott war is a total other issue

Letum · 01-26-10, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

an honest in depth review is one thing.

a full on boycott war is a total other issue

But SubSim wouldn't be waging such a war.

No more than subsim is waging a war against 'political party x' when
someone in General Topics says people shouldn't vote for them.

GoldenRivet · 01-26-10, 06:18 PM

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=160798

This discussion ends here for me.

with respect,

~GR

ETR3(SS) · 01-26-10, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

I simply point you here

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Originally Posted by IanC

It's not so complicated. Subsim.com wants to keep good relations with Ubisoft. So you can't use subsim.com as a vehicle to inflict any financial damage to Ubisoft.

I'm sorry but I fail to see how a personal opinion of a subsim member applies to my comment. Also IMHO it seems pretty obvious at times what Ubisoft marketing thinks of their "good relations" with subsim.com

Onkel Neal · 01-26-10, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Furthermore, as Subsim.com is a place for the promotion of submarine simulations and the companies / individuals that develop them, we feel that our forums are not the place for discussion or suggestion of boycott or any other actions which work against the development of present or future submarine simulations."

Wow, you wanna job?

Simply this, guys: boycotts are the nuclear weapon of community activism. People as individuals can determine for themselves if they want to buy a game or not.

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Originally Posted by Letum

But SubSim wouldn't be waging such a war.

No more than subsim is waging a war against 'political party x' when
someone in General Topics says people shouldn't vote for them.

You are right, but the core mission statement for Subsim has always been, to support sub game developers and the people who play subsims. Politics and sub games are apples and oranges.

Letum · 01-26-10, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

People as individuals can determine for themselves if they want to buy a game or not.

Exactly....so why the need for censorship?

Dowly · 01-26-10, 06:27 PM

Subsim is Ubisoft's bitch.

01-26-10, 06:03 PM	#19
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Wow. Over-reacting much? I can perfectly well understand why Subsim is shutting down stupid "boycott" threads, and Subsim is a private forum, free to be run as it pleases the owner. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

01-26-10, 06:09 PM	#21
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	Calling for a boycott and telling someone to boycott a game are two different things. I don't recall reading any post telling (aka demanding) people to boycott SH5. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

01-26-10, 06:14 PM	#23
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Under that logic Subsim could never give a negative game review. __________________

01-26-10, 06:18 PM	#26
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=160798 This discussion ends here for me. with respect, ~GR __________________

01-26-10, 05:59 PM	#17
IanC Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Running silent and deep Posts: 902 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	It's not so complicated. Subsim.com wants to keep good relations with Ubisoft. So you can't use subsim.com as a vehicle to inflict any financial damage to Ubisoft.

01-26-10, 06:06 PM	#20
Gilbou Chief Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: France Posts: 313 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	Calling for Boycott is too much. Not buying the game, buying it and not being happy about some of its limitations (or seen as such) or delaying the buy until there's a Subsim review is a matter of personnal choice. Calling for boycott is like.. trying to impose what you think is right to others, which I do think is wrong. Let each person choose and that's it.

01-26-10, 06:27 PM	#30
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Subsim is Ubisoft's bitch.