I'm done II

Sea Sap · 12-11-09, 05:54 PM

My apologies to the guy who makes the excellent SH3 commander. I have just experienced the "Not so long ago" crash once more and at the same point of a campaign as the two previous times i.e. after sinking my third ship. Before anyone says anything I wasn't submerged and I was miles away from the sinking.

After buying SH2 (Too linear, not realistic) & SH3 (Not finished) Ubisoft now owe me a free game.

Sailor Steve · 12-11-09, 05:58 PM

I'm sorry you feel that way, as there are dozens of people on these boards who are more than willing to offer any help we can. Many people have experienced CTDs and had their problems solved. But they had to ask for help, not just say "It doesn't work!" and walk away.

On the other hand, even mentioning cracks and cracked versions of a game is the very quickest way to get into trouble on this forum. Subsim.com has a good working relationship with the gaming industry, and anything that hurts that relationship is severly frowned upon, to put it as politely as possible.

Sea Sap · 12-11-09, 06:09 PM

Steve,

We gamers pay for these products and the developers have become very rich from selling them. I can't think of any other product which you buy broken and then have to fix it yourself before you can use it. It is time gamers woke up and stopped taking it up the rear. If we stop paying for broken games then maybe they might start making ones that work.

BootsmanBoof · 12-11-09, 08:09 PM

You're done? Well, what a shame.

KeybdFlyer · 12-12-09, 06:25 AM

Hmm. I didn't want to make a comment in this thread really, but have to say that I'm just about at the same point Sea Sap is. I have bought SH3 three times, DVD in England, DVD and D2D here in the US. Multiple installations over the years, some that worked but most that didn't. Some months back the game refused to let me pass 1941 - couldn't even start a new career - just CTD on every load, even going back to earlier patrols. But, I'm addicted, so I completely uninstalled, cleared the registry and all folders/files to do with SH3. Re-installed and tried again - only to find that the new clean installation craps me out even more. So far, out of 14 careers started since October, not one got past the end of the fourth patrol before refusing to load, even from port. Going back to saves that previously worked makes no difference, they crash also. Once a crash occurs, all previous saves also crash. So I made a copy of the vanilla installation to a different HD location and tried again - same thing; end patrol 4 and that's your lot, starting 5 results in a crash that affects previous saves as well. Last night I tried again to start a new career, Aug '39 patrol was fine, patrol 2 crashed. New career again? No way. Even the first patrol wouldn't start. So what now? Make yet another installation and try again? Well, right now I'm really not in the mood - Morrowind is back and running just fine - can't find even ONE damn merchantman to sink though.

Sea Sap · 12-12-09, 06:46 AM

I'm done with buying games. The games industry can't be trusted to release working games so I'll just take them and buy them later if I find them to work. Judging by my experience thus far, I won't be spending much money.

Laufen zum Ziel · 12-12-09, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Sap

Steve,

We gamers pay for these products and the developers have become very rich from selling them. I can't think of any other product which you buy broken and then have to fix it yourself before you can use it. It is time gamers woke up and stopped taking it up the rear. If we stop paying for broken games then maybe they might start making ones that work.

You may have paid for SHIII but you havn't paid for GWX 3 or SHIII commander. You also did not pay for all the good work our modders have done to make this the best sim ever.

Sailor Steve · 12-12-09, 04:42 PM

All I can say is that I play SH3 with GWX and Commander, plus a bunch of other mods, and I have experienced a CTD once in a very great while but not nearly enough to make me quit playing.

I don't know what the problem is you're experiencing, but my experience has been quite good.

Sea Sap · 12-12-09, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

All I can say is that I play SH3 with GWX and Commander, plus a bunch of other mods, and I have experienced a CTD once in a very great while but not nearly enough to make me quit playing.

I don't know what the problem is you're experiencing, but my experience has been quite good.

You're one of the lucky ones. I wonder how many others who like me just walk away because we haven't the time or the patience to fix things which should have been done right in the first place. Judging by the amount of gripes on here my guess is a lot.

I'll say it again - gamers need to stop accepting shoddy second rate products. If you buy a game and it doesn't do what it should do, then don't pay for their products until they up their game. If more people did this then we might all start getting games which don't need fixing before you can use them.

Sea Sap · 12-12-09, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Laufen zum Ziel

You may have paid for SHIII but you havn't paid for GWX 3 or SHIII commander. You also did not pay for all the good work our modders have done to make this the best sim ever.

Where have I complained about what modders do? I've said before that I think the modders are top guys. my beef is with developers who have now sold 4 unfinished games under the same title. I guarantee you disappointment when SH5 is released because Ubisoft know suckers will buy any old junk and stupid enough to make excuses for it to boot!

flag4 · 12-12-09, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Sap

My apologies to the guy who makes the excellent SH3 commander. I have just experienced the "Not so long ago" crash once more and at the same point of a campaign as the two previous times i.e. after sinking my third ship. Before anyone says anything I wasn't submerged and I was miles away from the sinking.

After buying SH2 (Too linear, not realistic) & SH3 (Not finished) Ubisoft now owe me a free game.

hi Sea Sap.

maybe your computer configuration is wrong - hardware software etc. i had an ati radeon graphics card some years ago - played ****** havock with sh3. switched to a nvidea card in 07 and those problems went away. i have recently posted that i too have had "not so long ago.." ctd and it was a mod conflict; a racerboys mod and thomsens mod. took one out, cleeaned away that career and things seem to be running again.

but i do empathise with you. i stoped playing sh3 for about one year, i had so many problems with it - various things really; not enough ram, not enough graphics card, even starforce maybe. i gave up took it all out and played FEAR like hell and games like it for a long time. but now im back and im glad coz this is my all time FAVORITE.

maybe you need a rest - clear your head. then come back next year for sh5.

12-11-09, 05:54 PM	#1
Sea Sap Seaman Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 42 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I'm done II My apologies to the guy who makes the excellent SH3 commander. I have just experienced the "Not so long ago" crash once more and at the same point of a campaign as the two previous times i.e. after sinking my third ship. Before anyone says anything I wasn't submerged and I was miles away from the sinking. After buying SH2 (Too linear, not realistic) & SH3 (Not finished) Ubisoft now owe me a free game. Last edited by Sea Sap; 12-12-09 at 10:43 AM.

12-11-09, 05:58 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I'm sorry you feel that way, as there are dozens of people on these boards who are more than willing to offer any help we can. Many people have experienced CTDs and had their problems solved. But they had to ask for help, not just say "It doesn't work!" and walk away. On the other hand, even mentioning cracks and cracked versions of a game is the very quickest way to get into trouble on this forum. Subsim.com has a good working relationship with the gaming industry, and anything that hurts that relationship is severly frowned upon, to put it as politely as possible. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

12-11-09, 06:09 PM	#3
Sea Sap Seaman Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 42 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Steve, We gamers pay for these products and the developers have become very rich from selling them. I can't think of any other product which you buy broken and then have to fix it yourself before you can use it. It is time gamers woke up and stopped taking it up the rear. If we stop paying for broken games then maybe they might start making ones that work. Last edited by Sea Sap; 12-11-09 at 06:44 PM.

12-11-09, 08:09 PM	#4
BootsmanBoof Mate Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 56 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	You're done? Well, what a shame. __________________ "Of all the branches of men in the forces there is none which shows more devotion and faces grimmer perils than the submariners." Sir Winston Churchill.

12-12-09, 04:42 PM	#8
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	All I can say is that I play SH3 with GWX and Commander, plus a bunch of other mods, and I have experienced a CTD once in a very great while but not nearly enough to make me quit playing. I don't know what the problem is you're experiencing, but my experience has been quite good. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

12-12-09, 06:25 AM	#5
KeybdFlyer 中国水兵 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 272 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	Hmm. I didn't want to make a comment in this thread really, but have to say that I'm just about at the same point Sea Sap is. I have bought SH3 three times, DVD in England, DVD and D2D here in the US. Multiple installations over the years, some that worked but most that didn't. Some months back the game refused to let me pass 1941 - couldn't even start a new career - just CTD on every load, even going back to earlier patrols. But, I'm addicted, so I completely uninstalled, cleared the registry and all folders/files to do with SH3. Re-installed and tried again - only to find that the new clean installation craps me out even more. So far, out of 14 careers started since October, not one got past the end of the fourth patrol before refusing to load, even from port. Going back to saves that previously worked makes no difference, they crash also. Once a crash occurs, all previous saves also crash. So I made a copy of the vanilla installation to a different HD location and tried again - same thing; end patrol 4 and that's your lot, starting 5 results in a crash that affects previous saves as well. Last night I tried again to start a new career, Aug '39 patrol was fine, patrol 2 crashed. New career again? No way. Even the first patrol wouldn't start. So what now? Make yet another installation and try again? Well, right now I'm really not in the mood - Morrowind is back and running just fine - can't find even ONE damn merchantman to sink though.

12-12-09, 06:46 AM	#6
Sea Sap Seaman Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 42 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I'm done with buying games. The games industry can't be trusted to release working games so I'll just take them and buy them later if I find them to work. Judging by my experience thus far, I won't be spending much money.