Why is Obama telling the world that Americans are pathetic and fueling hate?

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

The middle east conspiracy thing is on the same level of nuttery as the "911 was an inside job" and "we didn't go to the moon".

In the wingnut mind, there's no way a brown skinned man with a funny sounding name could have won a fair election in their vision of "'A'merka" so they invent these conspiracies in the face of all facts to square their vision with reality.

[geetrue]

Lets get carried away with the facts, okay.

1. Having gone to Harvard Obama is probabaly smarter than anyone on this forum except for August, okay

2. Obama won by a large voter turn out that included millions of white voters voting for him too. He is a very popular president.

3. Before Hillary gave up Bill Clinton said Obama didn't have what it takes (experience) to be the president of the United States of America. Allow me this one future thought, Obama is proving this and if he stumbles guess who is getting the experience to become the 46th president of the United States of America ... If you said Hillary Clinton you are correct.

4 Obama attended a church in Chicago for 22 years and never heard his pastor preach one single anti-american sermon (give me a break) Rev Wright was and still is his friend. His children were baptised in that church and untill recently was the only church he had ever been a member of ...

5. As of June 2009 Mr Obama had attended more Muslim mosque than he had a christian (which he proclaims to be) churches. His failure to locate a church in the Washington, DC area was given to his popularity and need for security. Barack Obama still looking for church

Okay, we give him that one, remembering that Mr Bush also chose to stay at home and attend a closed church service at Camp David which after six months of no home church Mr Obama has also now selected to be his church. Don't think this is not important in future events.

6. Who would be on the inside track of knowing how many passports Mr Obama had in the 1980's ... the State Department has that information and you already know who runs that department.

7. Mr Obama has 30 so called czars guiding him on what to do ... who are they and what do they tell him?

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/16/fox-debunks-czars/

Fox news introduced “All the President’s Czars,” citing a list from Taxpayers for Common Sense of “more than 30 czars” that “do not need to be confirmed by the Senate like Cabinet secretaries do.”

There is no number eight ... I have to go repent from reading the news and smiling that Mr Obama is on the way down. The Lord doesn't like my smirk and I don't want to be linked with Rush Limbo either.

More facts to chew on: Obama meets with Mormon leader

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama met with the leader of the Mormon church on Monday in the Oval Office, thanking the religion’s president for a thorough history of the first family.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints President Thomas S. Monson presented Obama with details of his family’s genealogy during their first face-to-face meeting. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat who is Mormon, helped arrange the meeting and joined it.
“I’m grateful for the genealogical records that they brought with them and am looking forward to reading through the materials with my daughters,” Obama said in a statement after the meeting. “It’s something our family will treasure for years to come.”

“President Obama’s heritage is rich with examples of leadership, sacrifice and service,” Monson said in a statement. “We were very pleased to research his family history and are honored to present it to him today.”
The five leather-bound books detail Obama’s family history for several generations. Parts of that history were already known, such as his ties to former Republican Vice President Dick Cheney. The two are eighth cousins.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Got any evidence?

I mean, obviously with such a masterful and deceptive infiltration there won't be any evidence, but just on the off-chance.....

You really should get in touch with the relevant authorities.

read again

50% joke
50% refusal to disclose where a large chunk of his campaign finance came from because america would be pissed if they knew

so relax

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

read again

50% joke
50% refusal to disclose where a large chunk of his campaign finance came from because america would be pissed if they knew

so relax

Large chunk?

Full Disclosure $378,216,383 (90.2%)
Incomplete $15,611,429 (3.7%)
No Disclosure $25,289,671 (6.0%)

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/su...goButt2=Submit

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Large chunk?

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/su...goButt2=Submit

http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/obama_illegal_donations/2008/10/19/141979.html

http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/Obama_fundraising_illegal/2008/09/29/135718.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/donations.asp


look my link posty thing works too w00+
all im saying is - without regard to "whos guy it is"
- if a lot ... hell if ANY... of his campaign money came from undisclosed overseas interests, wouldnt you want to know WHO it was

and why is he not telling?

something to hide?

does he not know himself who donated?

respecting the privacy of his contributors?

or something sinister?

it could be any one of those reasons, but would we be irresponsible for not at least CHECKING ???

[Max2147]

To be fair, $25.2 million isn't exactly a small piece of cash.

[Max2147]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/obama_illegal_donations/2008/10/19/141979.html

http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/Obama_fundraising_illegal/2008/09/29/135718.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/donations.asp


look my link posty thing works too w00+
all im saying is - without regard to "whos guy it is"
- if a lot ... hell if ANY... of his campaign money came from undisclosed overseas interests, wouldnt you want to know WHO it was

and why is he not telling?

something to hide?

does he not know himself who donated?

respecting the privacy of his contributors?

or something sinister?

it could be any one of those reasons, but would we be irresponsible for not at least CHECKING ???

Sure, your linky posty thing works, but you've got to work on which links you post!

Posting 3 links that support your accusation, then one link from a fact-checking site that says everything you posted previously is false is generally not a good idea.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Max2147

Sure, your linky posty thing works, but you've got to work on which links you post!

Posting 3 links that support your accusation, then one link from a fact-checking site that says everything you posted previously is false is generally not a good idea.

thats called being "unbiased"

all you have to do is look at HOW the articles were written.

3 written factually and in a manner in which the writer steps back and looks at the situation

1 written in language that is abusive to "the right" in its demeanor and language



just think - thats all

[Onkel Neal]

Well done!

Originally Posted by geetrue

Lets get carried away with the facts, okay.

1. Having gone to Harvard Obama is probabaly smarter than anyone on this forum except for August, okay

2. Obama won by a large voter turn out that included millions of white voters voting for him too. He is a very popular president.

3. Before Hillary gave up Bill Clinton said Obama didn't have what it takes (experience) to be the president of the United States of America. Allow me this one future thought, Obama is proving this and if he stumbles guess who is getting the experience to become the 46th president of the United States of America ... If you said Hillary Clinton you are correct.

4 Obama attended a church in Chicago for 22 years and never heard his pastor preach one single anti-american sermon (give me a break) Rev Wright was and still is his friend. His children were baptised in that church and untill recently was the only church he had ever been a member of ...

5. As of June 2009 Mr Obama had attended more Muslim mosque than he had a christian (which he proclaims to be) churches. His failure to locate a church in the Washington, DC area was given to his popularity and need for security. Barack Obama still looking for church

Okay, we give him that one, remembering that Mr Bush also chose to stay at home and attend a closed church service at Camp David which after six months of no home church Mr Obama has also now selected to be his church. Don't think this is not important in future events.

6. Who would be on the inside track of knowing how many passports Mr Obama had in the 1980's ... the State Department has that information and you already know who runs that department.

7. Mr Obama has 30 so called czars guiding him on what to do ... who are they and what do they tell him?

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/16/fox-debunks-czars/



There is no number eight ... I have to go repent from reading the news and smiling that Mr Obama is on the way down. The Lord doesn't like my smirk and I don't want to be linked with Rush Limbo either.

More facts to chew on: Obama meets with Mormon leader

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

thats called being "unbiased"

all you have to do is look at HOW the articles were written.

3 written factually and in a manner in which the writer steps back and looks at the situation

1 written in language that is abusive to "the right" in its demeanor and language



just think - thats all

Abusive to the right? Because they laid out what the facts were and pointed out the errors in the email?

Well, I guess it's true what they say: facts have a liberal bias.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Abusive to the right? Because they laid out what the facts were and pointed out the errors in the email?

Well, I guess it's true what they say: facts have a liberal bias.

no referring to fox news as "Faux news" as so many liberals like to do is a start.

you wont see one such reference in any of the other articles.

i wont be drawn into an endless debate about this... its mostly nonsense anyway.

my argument is mostly that Americans shouldn't just blindly follow or trust the man who sits in the oval office no matter who he is.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Quoted for laughs. "Faux" means "false", in the snopes article it just means "fake news", it has nothing to do with Fox.

funny

perhaps i have become too accustomed to being attacked because im a republican?

nothing will get the left descending on your arse faster than loving God and Guns and despising welfare and socialism

[Max2147]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

funny

perhaps i have become too accustomed to being attacked because im a republican?

nothing will get the left descending on your arse faster than loving God and Guns and despising welfare and socialism

Correction: Nothing will p*ss off the left more than FORCING US to love God and guns.

We don't care what other people do, but it really upsets me when people try to force their ways upon me, then call me "un-American" if I reject them.

As far as the Snopes article, they called the e-mail a faux new article because.... it's a faux news article! It's fake! The e-mail said it was written by Maureen Dowd, but Maureen Dowd didn't write it! Dowd's column on the date that was supposedly published was something completely different. Like most articles in chain e-mails, it's a LIE.

If people read the entire article instead of just the first sentence, stuff like this wouldn't happen. Snopes is a very well-respected fact-based site. I've never heard people on either side say it's biased.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Max2147

Correction: Nothing will p*ss off the left more than FORCING US to love God and guns.

We don't care what other people do, but it really upsets me when people try to force their ways upon me, then call me "un-American" if I reject them.

well hey... we have a breakthrough.

1. who is forcing you to go to church? saying that everyone has the freedom of religion doesnt mean you have to pick one.

2. who is forcing you to go purchase a gun? giving me the right to own a firearm with which to protect my home and property doesnt mean you have to buy or own one


the same could be said of the right in this country

we genuinely dont give a sh*t what you do... just dont infringe my rights to #1 and #2 above. and dont FORCE me to pay into socialist programs unless i do so voluntarily or unless i plan on using them for my own family.

deal???

Originally Posted by Max2147

As far as the Snopes article, they called the e-mail a faux new article because.... it's a faux news article! It's fake!

you are tardy for this segment of the show.

[donut]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

You've got something on your shoulder there.

I just don't agree with how much debt,to fix the US. bulkheads.