A Couple Of Issues - Page 2

MonTana_Prussian · 04-14-09, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WEBSTER

yep, in TMO all planes are elite and rarely miss you.

they can sometimes see you at 150ft just like if you were on surface if water conditions are right. Ducimus has some evil badass airplanes lol.

That bseems a bit much,but in RFB I was attacked at 75ft,so I tried 80,actually 82ft,and have not been bothered

Akula4745 · 04-14-09, 04:11 PM

I do not think it would be possible to spot a sub at 150 feet... much less 200. Sorry but that doesn't seem right to me either. Is TMO supposed to be a realistic sim? Or just an extra difficult one? Or would it ever be possible to spot a sub that deep in real life from the surface? Correct me if I am wrong but it just doesn't seem right... you cannot see a white sandy bottom 150 feet down!

Akula4745

Folducker · 04-14-09, 04:31 PM

In the real world, spotting a sub at 150 feet would be tough. Being able to see it so clearly that you could tell which way it was going and how deep it was would be just as difficult. Spotting the sub, figuring where to place your weapons and actually being able to hit it should be almost impossible. Of course, that wouldn't apply to a P-3 with ASW Torpedoes.

I remember seeing a photo of a U-Boat at periscope depth taken from a B-24 just before killing it. The caption said that the weather and sea conditions had to be just right or they would have missed it.

The one bad thing that I have noticed so far is transiting with high time compression on the surface. On the way home, I found my self suddenly in the middle of a convoy, surrounded by escorts and promptly damaged so badly that diving was a one way trip down. Thankfully I had saved the game before leaving the patrol area. Gotta be careful until getting past Midway.

MonTana_Prussian · 04-14-09, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Akula4745

I do not think it would be possible to spot a sub at 150 feet... much less 200. Sorry but that doesn't seem right to me either. Is TMO supposed to be a realistic sim? Or just an extra difficult one? Or would it ever be possible to spot a sub that deep in real life from the surface? Correct me if I am wrong but it just doesn't seem right... you cannot see a white sandy bottom 150 feet down!

Akula4745

I don't really know much about TMO. I did try it,but prefer RFB,but that's personal choice I guess.

Akula4745 · 04-14-09, 04:51 PM

I will definitely be going with RFB, Montana!

Jan Kyster · 04-14-09, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Akula4745

I do not think it would be possible to spot a sub at 150 feet... much less 200...

Somewhere I have reports of RAF pilots seing U-boats at 90 meters depth in Norway. That's 295 feet...
I don't recall the numbers from the Pacific, but there is a thread somewhere...

Akula4745 · 04-14-09, 09:30 PM

That is nothing short of amazing...

MonTana_Prussian · 04-14-09, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jan Kyster

Somewhere I have reports of RAF pilots seing U-boats at 90 meters depth in Norway. That's 295 feet...
I don't recall the numbers from the Pacific, but there is a thread somewhere...

That's pretty hard to believe,spotting a sub at that depth.

Akula4745 · 04-15-09, 06:10 AM

My thoughts exactly, Montana!

04-14-09, 04:11 PM	#17
Akula4745 Convicted Ship Killer Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Just out of sight... plotting your course and speed Posts: 846 Downloads: 371 Uploads: 1	I do not think it would be possible to spot a sub at 150 feet... much less 200. Sorry but that doesn't seem right to me either. Is TMO supposed to be a realistic sim? Or just an extra difficult one? Or would it ever be possible to spot a sub that deep in real life from the surface? Correct me if I am wrong but it just doesn't seem right... you cannot see a white sandy bottom 150 feet down! Akula4745 __________________ Akula4745 "If you sit by the river long enough... the body of your enemy will float by -- SunTzu"

04-14-09, 04:51 PM	#20
Akula4745 Convicted Ship Killer Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Just out of sight... plotting your course and speed Posts: 846 Downloads: 371 Uploads: 1	I will definitely be going with RFB, Montana! __________________ Akula4745 "If you sit by the river long enough... the body of your enemy will float by -- SunTzu"

04-14-09, 09:30 PM	#22
Akula4745 Convicted Ship Killer Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Just out of sight... plotting your course and speed Posts: 846 Downloads: 371 Uploads: 1	That is nothing short of amazing... __________________ Akula4745 "If you sit by the river long enough... the body of your enemy will float by -- SunTzu"

04-15-09, 06:10 AM	#24
Akula4745 Convicted Ship Killer Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Just out of sight... plotting your course and speed Posts: 846 Downloads: 371 Uploads: 1	My thoughts exactly, Montana! __________________ Akula4745 "If you sit by the river long enough... the body of your enemy will float by -- SunTzu"

04-14-09, 04:31 PM	#18
Folducker Mate Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 53 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	In the real world, spotting a sub at 150 feet would be tough. Being able to see it so clearly that you could tell which way it was going and how deep it was would be just as difficult. Spotting the sub, figuring where to place your weapons and actually being able to hit it should be almost impossible. Of course, that wouldn't apply to a P-3 with ASW Torpedoes. I remember seeing a photo of a U-Boat at periscope depth taken from a B-24 just before killing it. The caption said that the weather and sea conditions had to be just right or they would have missed it. The one bad thing that I have noticed so far is transiting with high time compression on the surface. On the way home, I found my self suddenly in the middle of a convoy, surrounded by escorts and promptly damaged so badly that diving was a one way trip down. Thankfully I had saved the game before leaving the patrol area. Gotta be careful until getting past Midway.