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Old 09-03-08, 05:53 PM   #16
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Article II section 2

The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states, when called into the actual service of the United States

So I guess the Air Force is clear?
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Old 09-03-08, 06:04 PM   #17
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Article II section 2

The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states, when called into the actual service of the United States

So I guess the Air Force is clear?
Great, now we have to have a Supreme Court hearing to figure it out:rotfl:Why couldn't those whacky founding fathers have forseen the Air Force (or the Marines and Coast Guard for that matter)?
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Old 09-03-08, 06:16 PM   #18
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Well I guess everyone loves bashing the guy on his way out..........But he still will always be an ex president. Going in you know that 50% of the people like you and 50% hate your guts. You can make some of the people happy some of the time, but you can't make all of them happy all of the time......The guy tried his best, maybe we don't all agree on the way he did things, but I do believe he felt he was doing the best he could for his country.....................and so it will be for the next president too. Whoever that may be...........
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Old 09-03-08, 06:17 PM   #19
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Article II section 2

The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states, when called into the actual service of the United States

So I guess the Air Force is clear?
Great, now we have to have a Supreme Court hearing to figure it out:rotfl:Why couldn't those whacky founding fathers have forseen the Air Force (or the Marines and Coast Guard for that matter)?
Wasnt your AF under the Army in the beginning?
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Old 09-03-08, 07:08 PM   #20
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Well I guess everyone loves bashing the guy on his way out..........But he still will always be an ex president. Going in you know that 50% of the people like you and 50% hate your guts. You can make some of the people happy some of the time, but you can't make all of them happy all of the time......The guy tried his best, maybe we don't all agree on the way he did things, but I do believe he felt he was doing the best he could for his country.....................and so it will be for the next president too. Whoever that may be...........
This isn't little league baseball. It's the Presidency of the US. Doing your best, when your best completely sucks, doesn't excuse an awful president like it would an awful 8 year old 2nd baseman.
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Old 09-04-08, 12:36 PM   #21
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Article II section 2

The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states, when called into the actual service of the United States

So I guess the Air Force is clear?
Great, now we have to have a Supreme Court hearing to figure it out:rotfl:Why couldn't those whacky founding fathers have forseen the Air Force (or the Marines and Coast Guard for that matter)?
Wasnt your AF under the Army in the beginning?
Yes, the National Security Act of 1947 designated the Air Force as a separate branch of the military.
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Old 09-04-08, 12:57 PM   #22
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Well I guess everyone loves bashing the guy on his way out..........But he still will always be an ex president. Going in you know that 50% of the people like you and 50% hate your guts. You can make some of the people happy some of the time, but you can't make all of them happy all of the time......The guy tried his best, maybe we don't all agree on the way he did things, but I do believe he felt he was doing the best he could for his country.....................and so it will be for the next president too. Whoever that may be...........
Good intentions don't cut the mustard.. in fact they don't even get the jar open.

A President of the United States is a lot like the Captain of a ship.

1. Anything good that happens, he takes credit for

2. Anything bad happens, he takes responsibilty for.

Both of these are completely independent of what the President/Captain did or did not do.

It is the nature of the job.

If things had gone great in IZ and AF; if the economy were great, you can bet that President Bush would take full credit for it. Well you can't just take credit for the good stuff, you have to take responsibility for the bad stuff too.

Don't like that? Don't be a Captain or President.
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