GOP VP pick's daughter pregnant at 17.

[Stealth Hunter]

I.R.O.N.Y.

She doesn't want sex education taught in school and is against abortion all the way around.:rotfl:

Maybe she'll become a bit more of a hypocrite now.:hmm:

[bookworm_020]

Originally Posted by Platapus

I think that is a good rule.

As long as the family member is not actively campaigning, they should be "off limits"

Conversely, once they start campaigning, they loose this exemption.

Agree with you on all points there Platapus!

Back to topic - I feel a little sorry for her (the Daughter) as she is now going to be in the spotlight. I do wish her the best of luck.....

[baggygreen]

Forgive me, but wheres the hypocrisy?

SHE has the pro-life, anti-sex-ed stance. Why should the thoughts of her daughter, who is old enough for independent thoughts and beliefs (and actions, too ay USLC) reflect in any way as hypocrisy on Palin??

We cant force our kids to think the same way we do, just as we cant force other adults to think or feel the same way we do.

Edit - as to her daughter being pregant, well if i was a few years younger and a bit (a lot) more single, i'd be a heartbroken kid!!

[JetSnake]

Well atleast Palin doesn't have personal relationships with guys like william ayers. Gawd-damn the USof KKKA.

[Enigma]

Well atleast Palin doesn't have personal relationships with guys like william ayers. Gawd-damn the USof KKKA.

The Department of irrelevant, confusing and "I know you are but what am I" comments just called. They'd like a word with you.

[Skybird]

With that kind of audience Palin's call to duty was meant to please, her internal family affairs will bite back at McCain, no doubt. If you ride on the high horse of superior morals and then the moral zealots must see that moral failure - or what they see as that - pops up in close vicinity to you, both self-opinionated indignation and muddy dirt will start flying around.

To what degree it effects McCain'S chances remains to be seen. I am sure he did not know in advance, and Palin herself probably also did not know. I would pay a hundred dollars for a private photo of their first facial expressions after they learned the news.

[Jimbuna]

I can't see this having any detrimental effect on their chances, thousands of American moms have had to face the same challenges and besides, they have the perfect counterbalance.....she has a son about to be posted to Iraq.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

I can't see this having any detrimental effect on their chances, thousands of American moms have had to face the same challenges and besides, they have the perfect counterbalance.....she has a son about to be posted to Iraq.

Technically - yes. But we talk about morals here. And little things in life can bring the morally upright and self-righteous so easily up to arms, like having sex before being married, while being younger than 18 anyway - and then even become pregnant.

The indignation is irrational, you are right with that implication, but moral zealots are somewhat irrational indeed.

the best thing she can do now is taking the initiative if possible and dealing offensively with it. I just hope that the girl and her boy are truly in love with each other, else they will possibly pay a heavy price for the ambitions of her mother, McCain, and the party. the pressure to comply that is being put on them must be enormous. And Palin would not be the first career animal sacrificing the wellbeing and interests of her offsprings on the altar of their own personal ambitions.

If there is a conflict and Palin steps back, putting family wellbeing over career, even when it damages the party or McCain, she would have my respect.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Happy Times

Back in the 90s..McCainns "famous" joke.

"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
Because her father is Janet Reno."

That looks to me like a tasteless joke. We are dealing with something entirely different that could have reprecussions on the outcome. A joke is one thing but not practicing what Palin is preaching is something all together different. Do as I say not as I do really does not fly for most. Although Obama said leave it alone, most of his attack dog campaign managers will not even though Obama said they will be fired. It is very easy to let things out like the Dems have on this campaign and then just apologize. It has gotten too easy. But what does it matter, the damage is done.

[JetSnake]

Originally Posted by Enigma

The Department of irrelevant, confusing and "I know you are but what am I" comments just called. They'd like a word with you.

Not irrelevant to swing voters and undecideds. Of course it is irrelevant to supporters of the train wreck chicago politician. Have a nice day.

[Thomen]

Originally Posted by Enigma

I wonder too. Would you put your daughter in the spotlight if you knew what was coming to her? Gotta wonder. :hmm:

They did not had much of a chance of keeping her out. Apparently some leftist started a smear campaign against Palin, her daughter and her husband.
Among other things it was implied that: He raped the daughter, and the kid with down syndrome is actually the daughters child and they covered it up by declaring the kid is Palins.

Talk about being desperate:
Now, the internet propaganda machine is aiming at her husband apparently he had a DUI 20 years ago.

Didn't Obama admitted to smoking controlled supstances when he was younger?

The politicians say the family is off limits, unfortunately the media and the private individuals see it quite different.

[Jimbuna]

The wonderful squeaky clean world of politics

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by baggygreen

Forgive me, but wheres the hypocrisy?

SHE has the pro-life, anti-sex-ed stance. Why should the thoughts of her daughter, who is old enough for independent thoughts and beliefs (and actions, too ay USLC) reflect in any way as hypocrisy on Palin??

We cant force our kids to think the same way we do, just as we cant force other adults to think or feel the same way we do.

Edit - as to her daughter being pregant, well if i was a few years younger and a bit (a lot) more single, i'd be a heartbroken kid!!

These things always take time. Give it a month or two. My guess is she'll be a little more leinient on the sex-ed restrictions.

And although that may be true, Palin seems to have trouble keeping family issues separate from her politics (and her political influence). I recall her attempting to have the ex-husband of her sister fired from the police corps just because the two were going through a divorce. The police chief admitted that he was pressured to do so, too.

You can get them to think like you, though. Kids are like blank computer disks: they have to have information given to them before they can function. My nephew is one of the few Democratic kids at his high school. He says there are still some kids who go there that believe Bush is a good president, yet they can't justify why. The reason: their parents have told them Bush is a good president, so they believe it to be true, and they don't bother to question or investigate more to draw their own conclusion.

[Digital_Trucker]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

And although that may be true, Palin seems to have trouble keeping family issues separate from her politics (and her political influence). I recall her attempting to have the ex-husband of her sister fired from the police corps just because the two were going through a divorce. The police chief admitted that he was pressured to do so, too.

Not saying the fact that they were getting a divorce wasn't a factor, but a couple of the charges brought up against the trooper (which he was found guilty of and "disciplined" for) are pretty troubling. I believe there's a little more to this than just the fact that they were getting divorced.

Here's an article from the Anchorage Daily News describing the information released regarding the investigation of the trooper. This isn't the only information available, but it's fairly informative.

http://www.adn.com/politics/story/476430.html

[Enigma]

And the fun continues.....

ST. PAUL -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the Republican
vice-presidential nominee who revealed Monday that her 17-year-old
daughter is pregnant, earlier this year used her line-item veto to
slash funding for a state program benefiting teen mothers in need of a
place to live. After the legislature passed a spending bill in April, Palin went through the measure reducing and eliminating funds for programs she opposed. Inking her initials on the legislation -- "SP" -- Palin reduced funding for Covenant House Alaska by more than 20 percent, cutting funds from $5 million to $3.9 million. Covenant House is a mix of programs and shelters for troubled youths, including Passage House, which is a transitional home for teenage mothers.