How the hell do i survive - Page 2

Puster Bill · 08-27-08, 02:56 PM

If you are going to go to periscope depth and duke it out with them, just remember to keep your rudder 10 or 15 degrees starboard or port. That helps keep them from getting too accurate. Also, don't worry about silent running at that point: They are going to ping the living dogfish out of you, so use some speed and drop some decoys.

Oh, and *PRAY* that they don't have hedgehogs. My last career ended in May of 1944 due to hedgehogs.

von hally · 08-27-08, 03:09 PM

thanks for all the replies herr kaleuns...very thoughtful!!

ive decided to indeed to engage full speed-periscope depth and try and get one of my homing eels off-crash dive and play the mouse-then repeat.

thing is i dont seem to want to return to the game.....as if by not...im keeping my crew alive a little longer.

p.s . is it just me or is the look on the chiefs face turning more angrier and contempt filled at me.... when more charges go off!!

maybe after so many hours in this predicament things are getting to us all....i want to tell him radar picked us up..it wasnt my fault

p.p.s thanks nirwana...will try

meduza · 08-27-08, 03:41 PM

Do you have SH3 Commander installed? It adds a thermal layer to the game, which can be helpful in situations like this.

If it's any comfort to you, a lot of men have been in the same position as you are now, but only a few survived... Good luck, Herr Kaleun!

sonar_PL · 08-27-08, 04:49 PM

How?

For first? LISTEN!!! Head sub to listen escort screws 160 - 200. If You do it - You can survive

Use silent run. If bombs exploding to close change the depth to 200m. If there they ping You drop the 3 decoys and run away on 2,5 knots to 250. Dont change speed and dont use decoys on 250-250.

If You wanna to use 1 knot - your sub never survive. thats too slow to escape. go 2-3 knots and listen. if dds find you again - try to run away on 176 on 2,5 knts

Im 100% realism player. Last time my sub escape after 7 hours 6 escorts hunts : )

PappyCain · 08-27-08, 06:53 PM

Put you head between your knees and kiss your arse goodbye.

Many good pointers above and most can help - but unless the hunters above need to move on, they will stay on you ping away until you shoot some rags, meat, oil, maps and letters to home out a tube. Maybe a useless seaman or two. Or that propoganda guy with a devote loyalty.

Been in such a squeeze play and I know that yes - you are in for 7-8hrs of real time white knuckle manuevers.

Best thing is to play it like you want to live and stay out of situations where you give your life away for a gambit. Live to fight another day under your terms. Remember the conversations with the surviving U-Boot commanders in AOD?

GoldenRivet · 08-27-08, 07:17 PM

so....

... how did it turn out?

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Kurt Lange · 08-27-08, 07:37 PM

Prevention is better than cure...

Don't close the convoy, but launch your torpedoes from at least 3500 metres...4500 is even better. Immediately turn away, set depth for the maximum you dare, but stick to 1 or 2 knots. You are so far away from the escorts that you are stern on to almost all of them, if you see what I mean. And they cant hear you at all.

I'm doing this in Wolves at War, in the Mediterranean in summer 1943, against NYGM 3.0 'bloodhound' escorts. In six attacks ( including one against a cruiser task force ), I haven't even been detected, let alone depthcharged. Try it; you will be surprised at what you see!

You need to make sure your firing solution is spot on at that range, and of course FATs will have no fuel to run further if they miss.

Erich dem Roten · 08-27-08, 08:15 PM

Blow balast, ahead flank, man the deck gun

astak9 · 08-27-08, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Erich dem Roten

Blow balast, ahead flank, man the deck gun

Is your life really that bad. Souns like pure suicide to me:hmm:

GoldenRivet · 08-27-08, 10:17 PM

i dont think he made it.

but we can hope his radio is just out

gAiNiAc · 08-27-08, 11:55 PM

The comforting thing about the sound of depth charges hitting the water is that a speed change will ruin the firing solution!

Patience........

von hally · 08-28-08, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

i dont think he made it.

but we can hope his radio is just out

rivet......its over

after hours of twisting and diving and turning and running is tried the "d" button.

indeed i could go deeper....but coupled with wabos....my beloved ixb gave out.

its over

months ive been playing this carreer.

gutted

they never ran out of wabos....b******!!!!

hours and hours......perii depth.....futile attempt at attack....dive ...hide.....over

Red Heat · 08-28-08, 08:28 AM

At this moment, my carer is in October 1944 and i still surving to the enemy attacks. When im sailing im very close to the radar warnings, and i double my atention to the radar signals...because most of this situations means DD or a DD escorting another ship (sometimes escorting a Battleship or greater) or may be not...can be a Hunter-Killer group, anyaway when i detect any radar signals i order a normal dive to PD if the signal are closed (then its possible to see and classify the contact) if its a DD i dive with Silent Running to 70 mts and all aways giving to the enemy a low profile and speed at 1 knot. The secret its to detect first and order counter-measures...and Survive. At this time (1944) its more important "run away to fight another day" than tonnage!

Rg370 · 08-28-08, 08:38 AM

Because of the situations like these, i've never used type IX in my careers.
I am interested how would smaller boats like type VIIC or II behave in similar situations.
Is their sonar profile small enough to allow you to escape? :hmm:

08-27-08, 02:56 PM	#16
Puster Bill Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2006 Location: BA8758, or FN33eh for my fellow hams. Posts: 833 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If you are going to go to periscope depth and duke it out with them, just remember to keep your rudder 10 or 15 degrees starboard or port. That helps keep them from getting too accurate. Also, don't worry about silent running at that point: They are going to ping the living dogfish out of you, so use some speed and drop some decoys. Oh, and PRAY that they don't have hedgehogs. My last career ended in May of 1944 due to hedgehogs. __________________ The U-Boat Commander of Love

08-27-08, 03:09 PM	#17
von hally Commodore Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 634 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	thanks for all the replies herr kaleuns...very thoughtful!! ive decided to indeed to engage full speed-periscope depth and try and get one of my homing eels off-crash dive and play the mouse-then repeat. thing is i dont seem to want to return to the game.....as if by not...im keeping my crew alive a little longer. p.s . is it just me or is the look on the chiefs face turning more angrier and contempt filled at me.... when more charges go off!! maybe after so many hours in this predicament things are getting to us all....i want to tell him radar picked us up..it wasnt my fault p.p.s thanks nirwana...will try __________________ May God Have Mercy Upon My Enemies ..... Because I Wont.

08-27-08, 06:53 PM	#20
PappyCain Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: on the Atlantic Ocean Posts: 559 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Put you head between your knees and kiss your arse goodbye. Many good pointers above and most can help - but unless the hunters above need to move on, they will stay on you ping away until you shoot some rags, meat, oil, maps and letters to home out a tube. Maybe a useless seaman or two. Or that propoganda guy with a devote loyalty. Been in such a squeeze play and I know that yes - you are in for 7-8hrs of real time white knuckle manuevers. Best thing is to play it like you want to live and stay out of situations where you give your life away for a gambit. Live to fight another day under your terms. Remember the conversations with the surviving U-Boot commanders in AOD? __________________ DID, no cheats, no shortcuts, no non-historic equipment deviations. Boat and crew safety is integral with my immersion style! Follow the historic events during your patrol: http://www.uboat.net/today.html

08-27-08, 07:17 PM	#21
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	so.... ... how did it turn out? __________________

08-27-08, 08:15 PM	#24
Erich dem Roten Electrician's Mate Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 134 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Blow balast, ahead flank, man the deck gun __________________

08-27-08, 03:41 PM	#18
meduza Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: on patrol Posts: 1,035 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Do you have SH3 Commander installed? It adds a thermal layer to the game, which can be helpful in situations like this. If it's any comfort to you, a lot of men have been in the same position as you are now, but only a few survived... Good luck, Herr Kaleun!

08-27-08, 04:49 PM	#19
sonar_PL Machinist's Mate Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: czestochowa Posts: 123 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	How? For first? LISTEN!!! Head sub to listen escort screws 160 - 200. If You do it - You can survive Use silent run. If bombs exploding to close change the depth to 200m. If there they ping You drop the 3 decoys and run away on 2,5 knots to 250. Dont change speed and dont use decoys on 250-250. If You wanna to use 1 knot - your sub never survive. thats too slow to escape. go 2-3 knots and listen. if dds find you again - try to run away on 176 on 2,5 knts Im 100% realism player. Last time my sub escape after 7 hours 6 escorts hunts : )

08-27-08, 07:37 PM	#23
Kurt Lange Seaman Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cambridge UK, AN7559 Posts: 32 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Prevention is better than cure... Don't close the convoy, but launch your torpedoes from at least 3500 metres...4500 is even better. Immediately turn away, set depth for the maximum you dare, but stick to 1 or 2 knots. You are so far away from the escorts that you are stern on to almost all of them, if you see what I mean. And they cant hear you at all. I'm doing this in Wolves at War, in the Mediterranean in summer 1943, against NYGM 3.0 'bloodhound' escorts. In six attacks ( including one against a cruiser task force ), I haven't even been detected, let alone depthcharged. Try it; you will be surprised at what you see! You need to make sure your firing solution is spot on at that range, and of course FATs will have no fuel to run further if they miss.

08-27-08, 10:17 PM	#26
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	i dont think he made it. but we can hope his radio is just out __________________

08-27-08, 11:55 PM	#27
gAiNiAc Weps Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 369 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	The comforting thing about the sound of depth charges hitting the water is that a speed change will ruin the firing solution! Patience........ __________________

08-28-08, 08:28 AM	#29
Red Heat Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,093 Downloads: 267 Uploads: 0	At this moment, my carer is in October 1944 and i still surving to the enemy attacks. When im sailing im very close to the radar warnings, and i double my atention to the radar signals...because most of this situations means DD or a DD escorting another ship (sometimes escorting a Battleship or greater) or may be not...can be a Hunter-Killer group, anyaway when i detect any radar signals i order a normal dive to PD if the signal are closed (then its possible to see and classify the contact) if its a DD i dive with Silent Running to 70 mts and all aways giving to the enemy a low profile and speed at 1 knot. The secret its to detect first and order counter-measures...and Survive. At this time (1944) its more important "run away to fight another day" than tonnage! __________________ "There is three kinds of man: the living, the death, and those who are at Sea." Plato

08-28-08, 08:38 AM	#30
Rg370 Watch Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bosnia and Herzegovina Posts: 30 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Because of the situations like these, i've never used type IX in my careers. I am interested how would smaller boats like type VIIC or II behave in similar situations. Is their sonar profile small enough to allow you to escape? :hmm: