[WIP] Bring Lightnings back - Page 2

CaptainCox · 08-05-07, 03:18 PM

Yep those textures looks the stuff

As I explained there are SO!!!! many parameters here with the
Particle.dat
Materials.dat
Scene.dat

And in the materials.dat you have 3 big chunks of stuff that needs to be looked at

@lightning_reflection_on_water0 1-4
@lightning_system01 1-4
@lightning_reflection_on_sky0 1-4

etc etc.
So either really roll up the sleeves here and get more peeps looking at it or simply wait for the S3D tool...
So far we got a decent looking "lightning mod" but it has many flaws

No lightning in daylight conditions
Lightning is spread out over an area (not showing up in one spot) but it does not move with the boat...at least not the way I have the "test mission" set up.

So there are many things to be solved/fixed. The more peeps that chip in the better I think

Delusory · 08-05-07, 04:32 PM

well, i think the lightning shouldn't "follow" the sub, but the storm it self. Maybe the devs tried to do this and just couldn't do in the given time, so they abandoned the idea.

Weather-guesser · 08-05-07, 04:38 PM

I don't know if I would be playing this anymore without all the hard work from all you guys. CHEERS!

CaptainCox · 08-05-07, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delusory

well, i think the lightning shouldn't "follow" the sub, but the storm it self. Maybe the devs tried to do this and just couldn't do in the given time, so they abandoned the idea.

Now this I totally agree with. Maybe just leave it as it is. But we still have to crack the daylight thingy/transparacy

kapitan_zur_see · 08-05-07, 07:20 PM

[/quote]Now this I totally agree with. Maybe just leave it as it is. But we still have to crack the daylight thingy/transparacy[/quote]

Yeah you right, main concern for now. As for myself, i also won't be truly satisfied unless my eyes catch those reflection on sky and water effect should it work

i shouldn't have saw those two, now can't help to be obsessed with them eheh

But yep, it's on the good way boys, hope we will have something good enough to be released soon

Fearless · 08-05-07, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delusory

well, i think the lightning shouldn't "follow" the sub, but the storm it self. Maybe the devs tried to do this and just couldn't do in the given time, so they abandoned the idea.

I agree also. Perhaps there's a variable in the scene.dat file that adjusts random lightning locations.

Bluesub 6 · 08-06-07, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fearless

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delusory

well, i think the lightning shouldn't "follow" the sub, but the storm it self. Maybe the devs tried to do this and just couldn't do in the given time, so they abandoned the idea.

I agree also. Perhaps there's a variable in the scene.dat file that adjusts random lightning locations.

scene.dat cat32:
Lightning
Height = 20
MinDistance = 120
MaxDistance = 180
MinTime = 10
MaxTime = 20

There nothing else about locations.

CaptainCox · 08-06-07, 03:15 AM

I think for location and stuff we need to look at the
"Particles.dat"
and the
"Materials.dat"

There are a lot of parameters there but :p

Delusory · 08-06-07, 04:30 AM

I'm not a modder, but maybe there're some files that are related with the weather? Where it would write how the game renders weather in the campain.:hmm:

CaptainCox · 08-06-07, 12:42 PM

Ok, a small breakthrough on the daylight lightning front

This pic was taken around 9AM (morning) game time

As far as i know (and this is the hard bit, as you tend to change a lot of stuff, and then its hard to remember what you actually did :p)
I (think I ) did these changes in the Materials.dat

As there are 4 Lightning groups I will show them as 1-4

Lifetime 1@ 0058F597=1.5 (FLOAT)
Transparent 1@ 0058F5D1=100 (BYTE)
Opacity 1@ 0058FB03=0 (I THINK THIS IS THE ONE!!!) FLOAT

Lifetime 2@ 005F191D=1.5 (FLOAT)
Transparent 2@ 005F1957=100 (BYTE)
Opacity 2@ 005F1E89=0 (I THINK THIS IS THE ONE!!!) FLOAT

Lifetime 3@ 005F3596=1.5 (FLOAT)
Transparent 3@ 005F35D0=100 (BYTE)
Opacity 3@ 005F3B02=0 (I THINK THIS IS THE ONE!!!) FLOAT

Lifetime 4@ 006153B2=1.5 (FLOAT)
Transparent 4@ 006153EC=100 (BYTE)
Opacity 4@ 0061591E=0 (I THINK THIS IS THE ONE!!!) FLOAT

If someone wants to try it out here is a small Tweakfile I did (should be run with the rest of the settings we found in the Scene.dat

Lightning Transparency Tweakfile:
http://files.filefront.com/Lightning+Transparencyrar/;8243019;;/fileinfo.html

Small edit on this, I found that setting the Mindis=40 and Maxdis=80-100 really gives you lightning in a complete circle around the boat. At least in the test mission I did.

chopped50ford · 08-06-07, 01:43 PM

I wish I had the talents to tweak, mod and add to the files of this or any games.

I have the deepest respect to you and everyones (DEV's) hard work to making this a "perfect" game.

Also, is this Tweak file a JSME loadable mod?

Thanks again.

CaptainCox · 08-06-07, 01:49 PM

No, sorry, this is for manually "tweaking" the data. You need to run it with Minitweaker and then set the values to what ever you want. I think we are not to far away from a "beta" release at least...

I would like to have LeoVampire to include this in hes next LBO mod as it is using the scene.dat. I hope he wont mind.

chopped50ford · 08-06-07, 01:58 PM

awesome, as always...Thanks again.

Seaman_Hornsby · 08-06-07, 03:12 PM

Promising looking work, skippers! This is definitely one to watch. Thanks for your efforts to make this game better guys!

Canonicus · 08-06-07, 06:11 PM

CC...I've been following this work very closely with keen interest and made all the changes to the various files that are involved and still....

I don't seem to be able to get the lightning to show up....

If you could, very breifly, summarize the procedures you and kapitan_zur_see have been using. That may clear up any problems i seem to be having to getting this to work. ( maybe of help to others, as well)

I know your busy with this, so any help would be appreciated.

Cheers, man.

08-05-07, 03:18 PM	#16
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Yep those textures looks the stuff As I explained there are SO!!!! many parameters here with the Particle.dat Materials.dat Scene.dat And in the materials.dat you have 3 big chunks of stuff that needs to be looked at @lightning_reflection_on_water0 1-4 @lightning_system01 1-4 @lightning_reflection_on_sky0 1-4 etc etc. So either really roll up the sleeves here and get more peeps looking at it or simply wait for the S3D tool... So far we got a decent looking "lightning mod" but it has many flaws No lightning in daylight conditions Lightning is spread out over an area (not showing up in one spot) but it does not move with the boat...at least not the way I have the "test mission" set up. So there are many things to be solved/fixed. The more peeps that chip in the better I think __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

08-05-07, 04:38 PM	#18
Weather-guesser Lieutenant Join Date: May 2007 Location: Albany, New York USA Posts: 260 Downloads: 72 Uploads: 0	I don't know if I would be playing this anymore without all the hard work from all you guys. CHEERS! __________________ NAVY! It's not just a job. It's a Buck Seventy-Five an hour!

08-05-07, 07:20 PM	#20
kapitan_zur_see Commodore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: France Posts: 614 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	[/quote]Now this I totally agree with. Maybe just leave it as it is. But we still have to crack the daylight thingy/transparacy[/quote] Yeah you right, main concern for now. As for myself, i also won't be truly satisfied unless my eyes catch those reflection on sky and water effect should it work i shouldn't have saw those two, now can't help to be obsessed with them eheh But yep, it's on the good way boys, hope we will have something good enough to be released soon __________________

08-06-07, 03:15 AM	#23
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I think for location and stuff we need to look at the "Particles.dat" and the "Materials.dat" There are a lot of parameters there but :p __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

08-06-07, 12:42 PM	#25
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Ok, a small breakthrough on the daylight lightning front This pic was taken around 9AM (morning) game time As far as i know (and this is the hard bit, as you tend to change a lot of stuff, and then its hard to remember what you actually did :p) I (think I ) did these changes in the Materials.dat As there are 4 Lightning groups I will show them as 1-4 Lifetime 1@ 0058F597=1.5 (FLOAT) Transparent 1@ 0058F5D1=100 (BYTE) Opacity 1@ 0058FB03=0 (I THINK THIS IS THE ONE!!!) FLOAT Lifetime 2@ 005F191D=1.5 (FLOAT) Transparent 2@ 005F1957=100 (BYTE) Opacity 2@ 005F1E89=0 (I THINK THIS IS THE ONE!!!) FLOAT Lifetime 3@ 005F3596=1.5 (FLOAT) Transparent 3@ 005F35D0=100 (BYTE) Opacity 3@ 005F3B02=0 (I THINK THIS IS THE ONE!!!) FLOAT Lifetime 4@ 006153B2=1.5 (FLOAT) Transparent 4@ 006153EC=100 (BYTE) Opacity 4@ 0061591E=0 (I THINK THIS IS THE ONE!!!) FLOAT If someone wants to try it out here is a small Tweakfile I did (should be run with the rest of the settings we found in the Scene.dat Lightning Transparency Tweakfile: http://files.filefront.com/Lightning+Transparencyrar/;8243019;;/fileinfo.html Small edit on this, I found that setting the Mindis=40 and Maxdis=80-100 really gives you lightning in a complete circle around the boat. At least in the test mission I did. __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE Last edited by CaptainCox; 08-06-07 at 01:04 PM.

08-05-07, 04:32 PM	#17
Delusory Seaman Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Klaipeda, Lithuania :) Posts: 32 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	well, i think the lightning shouldn't "follow" the sub, but the storm it self. Maybe the devs tried to do this and just couldn't do in the given time, so they abandoned the idea.

08-06-07, 04:30 AM	#24
Delusory Seaman Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Klaipeda, Lithuania :) Posts: 32 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'm not a modder, but maybe there're some files that are related with the weather? Where it would write how the game renders weather in the campain.:hmm:

08-06-07, 01:43 PM	#26
chopped50ford Weps Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bentonville, AR Posts: 367 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	I wish I had the talents to tweak, mod and add to the files of this or any games. I have the deepest respect to you and everyones (DEV's) hard work to making this a "perfect" game. Also, is this Tweak file a JSME loadable mod? Thanks again. __________________ TM2(SS) USS Asheville - Plankowner, Shellback, "Order of the Ditch" http://ths-i.com/

08-06-07, 01:49 PM	#27
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	No, sorry, this is for manually "tweaking" the data. You need to run it with Minitweaker and then set the values to what ever you want. I think we are not to far away from a "beta" release at least... I would like to have LeoVampire to include this in hes next LBO mod as it is using the scene.dat. I hope he wont mind. __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

08-06-07, 01:58 PM	#28
chopped50ford Weps Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bentonville, AR Posts: 367 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	awesome, as always...Thanks again. __________________ TM2(SS) USS Asheville - Plankowner, Shellback, "Order of the Ditch" http://ths-i.com/

08-06-07, 03:12 PM	#29
Seaman_Hornsby Engineer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 203 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 0	Promising looking work, skippers! This is definitely one to watch. Thanks for your efforts to make this game better guys! __________________ Friends, when once a man is launched on such an adventure as this, he must bid farewell to hopes and fears, otherwise death or deliverance will both come too late to save his honor and his reason.

08-06-07, 06:11 PM	#30
Canonicus XO Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In your baffles... Posts: 434 Downloads: 624 Uploads: 7	CC...I've been following this work very closely with keen interest and made all the changes to the various files that are involved and still.... I don't seem to be able to get the lightning to show up.... If you could, very breifly, summarize the procedures you and kapitan_zur_see have been using. That may clear up any problems i seem to be having to getting this to work. ( maybe of help to others, as well) I know your busy with this, so any help would be appreciated. Cheers, man. Last edited by Canonicus; 08-06-07 at 06:24 PM.