Type VIIC/42 - Page 2

Werewolf · 07-14-07, 05:44 AM

:hmm: erhm.........what happened to everyone?

Alex · 07-14-07, 08:20 AM

I'm still here, just had nothing to answer cause I think that your opinion on the VIIC/42 is the right one.

Werewolf · 07-14-07, 01:56 PM

@Alex

hahaha....well thanks

....only problem now is I know how to make the small changes to the performance of the sub, but I don't know a thing about doing graphics like cloning con. towers and so on :hmm: guess we just have to wait

Alex · 07-14-07, 02:48 PM

I think there are enough skillful modders on here who could have a try at this type... Let's wait and see.

And Bump!, sometimes.

Werewolf · 07-14-07, 03:55 PM

@Alex

Hahaha...yeah, there're certainly enough talents gathered in here

Bump on! haha

Werewolf · 07-27-07, 06:38 AM

bump

Werewolf · 07-30-07, 06:12 PM

Well if any of you are still there then I am able to tell that I have dug very deep to find information about the VIIC/42 and this is what I've come up with:

It was made to increase the range, crush depth and the offensive power of the VIIC

It was made upon basis of the VIIC hull just like the VIIC/41

The range was extended by widening the saddle tanks with 35 cm, this allowed for an additional 70 tons of fuel which gave it an operational range of app. 12600 nm. The hull was not lengthened as far as I understand which explains why it kept the type designation VIIC, neither was the bow or anything changed from the VIIC/41.

It carried 2 extra torpedoes, total number of 16, how they managed to do this I cannot remember, it had something to do with the conning tower I think.

The extra diving depth was obtained by once again to thicken the hull plating.

It had a slightly higher surface speed 18.6 knots, obtained by an extra boost of the diesel engines. Electric motors the same and submerged topspeed too.

All in all it would have looked almost like a VIIC/41, since cobalt already has made an excellent model of this then a new model will not be necessary. Snorkel was of usual type, deck mounted. The ONLY concern as to modelling will then be the 2 scopes in the con. The rest will be tweaking with the performance files which is a 5 minute job using SH3 mini tweaker.

Are any of you still there and Hitman, would it be possible to clone the IX and VII cons? Not to mention the control room?

Alex · 07-30-07, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Werewolf

Are any of you still there

Yes I am !

That's really good to know that we're probably going to have a new one as beautiful as the VIIC/41 !!

Anyway, congratulations, mate, for finding all these informations !

Werewolf · 07-30-07, 06:45 PM

Ah Alex mon ami, good to see you are still hanging on haha

now we only need hitman

Ubåtskapten · 07-30-07, 08:16 PM

I've read somewhere (unfortunately I can't recall where) that they tried telescopic schnorkels on some of the conventional U-boats by removing one of the periscopes and installing it there. However I don't know if this was the case with the planned production version of the VIIC/42.:hmm:

Edit: Here they mention it in a few lines but not which boats that where rebuilt.
http://www.uboataces.com/snorkel.shtml

Werewolf · 07-31-07, 02:28 AM

Uboatkapten:

Aha! that's very interesting, that reminds me of a picture I once saw of a snorting device, but I noticed on the picture that it was not mounted on a type XXI since the wintergarten was visible, and it looked exactly as if it was mounted in a periscope house!

unfortunately I can't remember where either

but I think it was a site about German snorkels during WW2 or maybe about the tarnmatte..actually I think it was :hmm:

:hmm: Then maybe the VIIC/42 was planned to have this kind of installation anyway, that again explains the term "integrated snorkel". Only from the few drawings I have seen it looks as if it had the conventional snorkel installed, but then again, the people behind the drawings don't really know either since none of them were finished, not by the Germans anyway and not during the war.

07-14-07, 08:20 AM	#17
Alex Dominant Wolf Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,143 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	I'm still here, just had nothing to answer cause I think that your opinion on the VIIC/42 is the right one. __________________

07-14-07, 02:48 PM	#19
Alex Dominant Wolf Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,143 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	I think there are enough skillful modders on here who could have a try at this type... Let's wait and see. And Bump!, sometimes. __________________

07-30-07, 08:16 PM	#25
Ubåtskapten Soundman Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 141 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	I've read somewhere (unfortunately I can't recall where) that they tried telescopic schnorkels on some of the conventional U-boats by removing one of the periscopes and installing it there. However I don't know if this was the case with the planned production version of the VIIC/42.:hmm: Edit: Here they mention it in a few lines but not which boats that where rebuilt. http://www.uboataces.com/snorkel.shtml Last edited by Ubåtskapten; 07-30-07 at 08:28 PM.

07-14-07, 05:44 AM	#16
Werewolf Sonar Guy Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 394 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	:hmm: erhm.........what happened to everyone?

07-14-07, 01:56 PM	#18
Werewolf Sonar Guy Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 394 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	@Alex hahaha....well thanks ....only problem now is I know how to make the small changes to the performance of the sub, but I don't know a thing about doing graphics like cloning con. towers and so on :hmm: guess we just have to wait

07-14-07, 03:55 PM	#20
Werewolf Sonar Guy Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 394 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	@Alex Hahaha...yeah, there're certainly enough talents gathered in here Bump on! haha

07-27-07, 06:38 AM	#21
Werewolf Sonar Guy Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 394 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	bump

07-30-07, 06:12 PM	#22
Werewolf Sonar Guy Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 394 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	Well if any of you are still there then I am able to tell that I have dug very deep to find information about the VIIC/42 and this is what I've come up with: It was made to increase the range, crush depth and the offensive power of the VIIC It was made upon basis of the VIIC hull just like the VIIC/41 The range was extended by widening the saddle tanks with 35 cm, this allowed for an additional 70 tons of fuel which gave it an operational range of app. 12600 nm. The hull was not lengthened as far as I understand which explains why it kept the type designation VIIC, neither was the bow or anything changed from the VIIC/41. It carried 2 extra torpedoes, total number of 16, how they managed to do this I cannot remember, it had something to do with the conning tower I think. The extra diving depth was obtained by once again to thicken the hull plating. It had a slightly higher surface speed 18.6 knots, obtained by an extra boost of the diesel engines. Electric motors the same and submerged topspeed too. All in all it would have looked almost like a VIIC/41, since cobalt already has made an excellent model of this then a new model will not be necessary. Snorkel was of usual type, deck mounted. The ONLY concern as to modelling will then be the 2 scopes in the con. The rest will be tweaking with the performance files which is a 5 minute job using SH3 mini tweaker. Are any of you still there and Hitman, would it be possible to clone the IX and VII cons? Not to mention the control room?

07-30-07, 06:45 PM	#24
Werewolf Sonar Guy Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 394 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	Ah Alex mon ami, good to see you are still hanging on haha now we only need hitman

07-31-07, 02:28 AM	#26
Werewolf Sonar Guy Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 394 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	Uboatkapten: Aha! that's very interesting, that reminds me of a picture I once saw of a snorting device, but I noticed on the picture that it was not mounted on a type XXI since the wintergarten was visible, and it looked exactly as if it was mounted in a periscope house! unfortunately I can't remember where either but I think it was a site about German snorkels during WW2 or maybe about the tarnmatte..actually I think it was :hmm: :hmm: Then maybe the VIIC/42 was planned to have this kind of installation anyway, that again explains the term "integrated snorkel". Only from the few drawings I have seen it looks as if it had the conventional snorkel installed, but then again, the people behind the drawings don't really know either since none of them were finished, not by the Germans anyway and not during the war.