How to fix illegal immigration into the US...And solve the gas crisis

[ASWnut101]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

If the price of gas were to fall, would you buy more, or less?

I'd buy something else with the money I saved from it.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by ASWnut101

I'd buy something else with the money I saved from it.

Anyone heard of investing it instead? But still, that is the best answer yet.

-S

[ASWnut101]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Anyone heard of investing it instead? But still, that is the best answer yet.

-S

I've already got stuff invested. Hence why I almost freaked when the stock market dropped so suddenly.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by ASWnut101

I'd buy something else with the money I saved from it.

Of course, if the price was falling from a natural level. But, if the price was already artificially high (Iraq/Iran instability etc), and the price fell, you would surely resume your previous level of consumption. It stands to reason that gasoline, like almost ever other good, is consumed in greater amounts as the price falls. Law of demand etc.
A much easier way of reducing the amount of gas used would be to increase the price.

[ASWnut101]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Of course, if the price was falling from a natural level. But, if the price was already artificially high (Iraq/Iran instability etc), and the price fell, you would surely resume your previous level of consumption. It stands to reason that gasoline, like almost ever other good, is consumed in greater amounts as the price falls. Law of demand etc.
A much easier way of reducing the amount of gas used would be to increase the price.

Sure it might work, but it wont. Gas companies (Eexon, Mobil, BP, etc.) still want their money. Someone will come along with an insainly low price, and the cycle continues.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by ASWnut101

Sure it might work, but it wont. Gas companies (Eexon, Mobil, BP, etc.) still want their money. Someone will come along with an insainly low price, and the cycle continues.

But what definitely won't work is reducing gas usage by lowering the price, no matter how much the OP wants it to.

[ASWnut101]

I don't see where your getting at, but ok...

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey

Well in the New Cold War thread, you asked had I ever been out of my cage!

I did say that, but if you read the whole thread, you would understand where that came from. If you don't read the whole thread, yeah, I could see how that might be taken the wrong way. I do not mean anything negative by it - just that you may not have been exposed to freedom the way I have.

Or maybe I am just being paranoid?

You are being paranoid! I do have strong opinions, as you know, and I voice them, sometimes. Lately I've been voicing them too, but next month I may be more quiet. If I am coming across too rough though, let me know.

And to answer your question, no, I have a perfectly clean record. If you followed the CPP threads, you would know I have one and if you ever have an assualt charge on your record, you can't have a CPP (for obvious reasons. They don't want you shooting anyone because you go off have cocked!). Besides, talking is much more constructive and fun when you show them their error!

By the way, sorry if I have offended you.

Also, coming back to the point, how do you know ALL the illegal immigrants drive? 11 million out of 11 million illegal immigrands all driving cars?! If they are illegal immigrants, chances are they have fake names, fake ids and are working for cash in hand, they probably can barely even afford a gallon of petrol for a car, much less the car itself! So how is turfing out illegal immigrants going to solve a gas problem? really?

I wish this was the case. Yes, they even drive gas guzzlers. They probably wear better clothes than you - decked out in Nike outfits, etc. One of the businesses my father owns is a daycare, and he does accept some kids who are subsidized by the state. Some of them are probably as you imagine, but the majority will drive decent cars, and have as many children as they can get. They never get married either. Why? Welfare. Every kid they have is a paycheck from the state - the more, the bigger the check. To get married would actually make the paycheck smaller based on the rules, so you can't do that. The men typically go out and work contruction, etc., under the table if they can. They don't pay taxes either, or contribute in any way positively, especially when you realize that they undercut people who actually want to take these jobs. Actually, I could go on and on with what I have seen, but the bottom line is, they are not poor. Maybe when they first get here and before they become established, but that will only last so long.

Somewhere in this General thread is the estimated costs of a typical state like Colorado to support illegal aliens over a 1 year period. That number is not in the millions either, try billions in tax payer funded $$$ to support people that should not be here in the first place.

Anyway, the point is, do not think for a second that they are poor. They may not be rich either, but yes, they drive and pay for gas, and burn it.

Unless wages in the US really are that good for even the most menial cash in hand jobs? I'm just saying to me, turf out the immigrants if you want, but looks like Bush is just using that as a quick solution, and I fail to see how it will be that effective, even if every sinlge one of the 11 million immigrants drove and owned a car, compare 11 million to the total US population which must be upward of 300 million at least. How is that going to make any kind of dent in the gas problem?

Its another at least few million cars off the road. Its all a percentage thing. I guess you would have to get into a cost analysis to figure it out, but thats for the guys who like statistics. But if they help bring peace to the middle east, the gas crisis can be averted anyway! So there's your answer! :p

At the start of the thread, you say this makes sense, how!?:hmm:

That quote is more for fun than to be completely serious, but it is an idea only. But in all seriousness, if they take up arms and want to defend our country, I'd say give them a path to citizenship. I wouldn't even bat an eye.

-S

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by ASWnut101

I don't see where your getting at, but ok...

This bit from the original post - Bush wants us to cut the amount of gas we use. The best way to stop using so much gas is to deport 11million illegal immigrants! That would be 11 million less people using our gas. The price of gas would come down.


Doesn't make any sense

[ASWnut101]

It does. If less people use gas, there's more gas to go around. Simple supply and demand.

[Foghladh_mhara]

As a matter of interest what is the price of petrol in the US now?

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Foghladh_mhara

As a matter of interest what is the price of petrol in the US now?

I only buy 92 Octane, and i pay about $2.80 a gallon.

-S

[ASWnut101]

Well really, it depends on where you live. I'm getting mine at ~$2.60/gallon at this moment.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by ASWnut101

Well really, it depends on where you live. I'm getting mine at ~$2.60/gallon at this moment.

Is that for 87 Octane?

[ASWnut101]

Heh, I don't check those numbers. All I know is that it's the "normal" gas. (out of 'normal,' 'super' and 'supreme').