Life after SHIV? - Page 2

Blood_splat · 03-05-07, 03:36 PM

They can go back and do the Atlantic again.

dean_acheson · 03-05-07, 03:40 PM

SH needs to stay in the pre-45 era. The only other decent idea is a WWI boat, which would probably be pretty fun, esp. if the game modeled massive hits for not following cruiser rules at certain times, and included Q ships and such.

The older boats are just better at simming. I enjoyed playing 688 when it would still work on whatever was the os for the week, but that just wasn't as much fun as watching ships through a periscope and shooting torpedoes at it. Watching the sonar fall on 688 isn't as much fun as listening to headphones on a creaky old type II.

The new boats are a different genre than the Silent Hunter series. The only thing that we really are missing is a DC 2, which is not something that I am keeping my fingers crossed about. A new DC would stike me as something for a real niche gamer crowd, unless it had neat stuff like shore bombardments and chasing ghouls around the deck with a shot gun....

Sailor Steve · 03-05-07, 05:21 PM

We seem to keep having this same discussion over and over again. Just do a search for "SHV" or "SH5".

No, we don't need a post-war nuclear sub version, at least not titled "Silent Hunter". SH has always been a WW2 title, and it needs to keep being improved until it's perfect.

hyperion2206 · 03-05-07, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Krunch

I've often wondered why a company, after producing a quality sub sim, doesn't apply part of their software code to a totally different naval sim. For example, it appears that in SH4 Ubi has designed a great engine for depicting the oceans and coastlines of the world. Why waste this effort? Why not create another sim, but in a totally different era, such as the age of sail? You have the "world" already created; build on it by creating man of wars, 74-guns ships of the line, sloops, etc. Sure, the gameplay, AI, models, etc, would be very different between these two eras, but they both operate in the same medium, so why not try to recoup your investment by creating and selling another game? I know many people loved playing Man of War II, which came out in 1999, and would love to see such a game updated with SH3/4 graphics.

A dream would come true! Since reading the Richard Bolitho Saga by Alexander Kent I want to (virtually

) command frigate and ships of the line. Just thinking of such an option makes me drool.

THE_MASK · 03-05-07, 05:50 PM

Life after SH4 = atlantic addon.

Sailor Steve · 03-05-07, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Brag

A couple of years ago, some game reviewer predicted that SHIII would be the end of the subsims. Obviously he missed the mark.

As to the reviewer's statement, I recall reading that the head of the British Royal Society declared that everything that could be invented had been invented!

And this was around 1898!

codmander · 03-05-07, 07:47 PM

next version of computers 10/100gigs of ram 10/100gigs g cards yep fact you'll see the next series of subsims won't be long either 5 years

Brag · 03-05-07, 08:02 PM

I'd love to command a frigate in an age of sail game. Would need to keep the Luftwaffe out of it, though.

:rotfl: :rotfl:

Hartmann · 03-05-07, 08:53 PM

Also could be nice a surface ship sim, like battleships, cruisers and destroyers.

stay in the bridge of hood ,graff spee , or biskmark

StandingCow · 03-05-07, 09:37 PM

A subsim MMORPG. You can play both sides, or a destroyer escorting.. and even aircraft.

Sort of like WW2 online. Only not laggy.

bookworm_020 · 03-05-07, 11:06 PM

What? Life after Silent Hunter???? I don't want to think about it!

If they ever to a modern one, the problem will be how and where to set it. There hasn't been a conflict that could make a good bases for a conflict (the best that comes to mind would be the Falklands, and that's pushing it). The only way is to go hypothetical like Harpoon.

It's best to stick to WW2 era subs as there is more historical data to work with. A new game engine for the pacific and atlantic would be a good starting point, maybe some AI subs and the ability to play different countries (British, U.S., German, Japanese, Italian and so on). Doing it by add on or providing the bare bones of it so modders can do the work for them.

sh3rules · 03-06-07, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sober

Life after SH4 = atlantic addon.

Maybe that'll be SHV. Wasn't SHIV originally conceived as an addon for SHIII? In any case, there are many things that they can improve upon, whether they do Japan or Germany.

tonibamestre · 03-06-07, 05:57 AM

I like the idea of a future redesigned SH implementing units from several nationalities in order to engage online.Dont need 3 or 4 subs from each,would be enough with one,the most representative from each country,VIIC from Germany,Gato US,IJN,Royal Navy.....
Also a Carrier Command could be implemented,if not emulating the big fleet carriers,at least give the chance to be in command of a Hunter Killer group with scort type carriers like Casablanca and Independence.

But I think to fasten SH on WW2 forever is a mistake.We have not actually modern naval games with the graphical quality that Ubi give us,have we?So,in a future,I dont say when,would be interesting the evolution of this series towards the early Cold War,mainly focused to online engage.

WilhelmSchulz. · 03-06-07, 06:09 AM

I would like to see a SHV. but there are only now 2 untaped ressources. WWI, and the cold war. For the cold war.... Dig up Tom Clancys Red Storm Rising and give it a makeover.

kiwi_2005 · 03-06-07, 06:50 AM

Maybe Japanese, Soviet, britain and Italian campaigns of WW2 for Silent Hunter. :hmm:

03-05-07, 05:21 PM	#18
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	We seem to keep having this same discussion over and over again. Just do a search for "SHV" or "SH5". No, we don't need a post-war nuclear sub version, at least not titled "Silent Hunter". SH has always been a WW2 title, and it needs to keep being improved until it's perfect. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-05-07, 08:02 PM	#23
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I'd love to command a frigate in an age of sail game. Would need to keep the Luftwaffe out of it, though. :rotfl: :rotfl: __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

03-05-07, 08:53 PM	#24
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	Also could be nice a surface ship sim, like battleships, cruisers and destroyers. stay in the bridge of hood ,graff spee , or biskmark __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor

03-05-07, 09:37 PM	#25
StandingCow Weps Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 355 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	A subsim MMORPG. You can play both sides, or a destroyer escorting.. and even aircraft. Sort of like WW2 online. Only not laggy. __________________

03-05-07, 11:06 PM	#26
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	What? Life after Silent Hunter???? I don't want to think about it! If they ever to a modern one, the problem will be how and where to set it. There hasn't been a conflict that could make a good bases for a conflict (the best that comes to mind would be the Falklands, and that's pushing it). The only way is to go hypothetical like Harpoon. It's best to stick to WW2 era subs as there is more historical data to work with. A new game engine for the pacific and atlantic would be a good starting point, maybe some AI subs and the ability to play different countries (British, U.S., German, Japanese, Italian and so on). Doing it by add on or providing the bare bones of it so modders can do the work for them. __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

03-05-07, 03:36 PM	#16
Blood_splat Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Beneath the waves Posts: 568 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	They can go back and do the Atlantic again.

03-05-07, 03:40 PM	#17
dean_acheson Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Midwest - USA Posts: 1,057 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	SH needs to stay in the pre-45 era. The only other decent idea is a WWI boat, which would probably be pretty fun, esp. if the game modeled massive hits for not following cruiser rules at certain times, and included Q ships and such. The older boats are just better at simming. I enjoyed playing 688 when it would still work on whatever was the os for the week, but that just wasn't as much fun as watching ships through a periscope and shooting torpedoes at it. Watching the sonar fall on 688 isn't as much fun as listening to headphones on a creaky old type II. The new boats are a different genre than the Silent Hunter series. The only thing that we really are missing is a DC 2, which is not something that I am keeping my fingers crossed about. A new DC would stike me as something for a real niche gamer crowd, unless it had neat stuff like shore bombardments and chasing ghouls around the deck with a shot gun....

03-05-07, 05:50 PM	#20
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	Life after SH4 = atlantic addon.

03-05-07, 07:47 PM	#22
codmander Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: cape cod mass. Posts: 678 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	next version of computers 10/100gigs of ram 10/100gigs g cards yep fact you'll see the next series of subsims won't be long either 5 years

03-06-07, 05:57 AM	#28
tonibamestre 中国水兵 Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 271 Downloads: 82 Uploads: 0	I like the idea of a future redesigned SH implementing units from several nationalities in order to engage online.Dont need 3 or 4 subs from each,would be enough with one,the most representative from each country,VIIC from Germany,Gato US,IJN,Royal Navy..... Also a Carrier Command could be implemented,if not emulating the big fleet carriers,at least give the chance to be in command of a Hunter Killer group with scort type carriers like Casablanca and Independence. But I think to fasten SH on WW2 forever is a mistake.We have not actually modern naval games with the graphical quality that Ubi give us,have we?So,in a future,I dont say when,would be interesting the evolution of this series towards the early Cold War,mainly focused to online engage.

03-06-07, 06:09 AM	#29
WilhelmSchulz. The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Virgina Beach Posts: 1,301 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	I would like to see a SHV. but there are only now 2 untaped ressources. WWI, and the cold war. For the cold war.... Dig up Tom Clancys Red Storm Rising and give it a makeover. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink… others require our assistance."

03-06-07, 06:50 AM	#30
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	Maybe Japanese, Soviet, britain and Italian campaigns of WW2 for Silent Hunter. :hmm: __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.