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Ace of the Deep
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Well, I guess one can assume all sorts of thigs, one was so inclined.
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I have internet access 24/7 and much as I love SH3 and 4 but I won’t be buying SH5 because of DRM.
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Seaman
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I don't care for DRM one bit. Call me crazy -- but I get offended all the time when people demand to look at my receipt when I leave a store. If I buy it -- once it's mine, it's mine. Thus they should no longer concern themselves with what I do with it.
Which is how I feel about DRM. I'm not crazy about it -- but I love the SH series; to the point that I've got my pre-order with overnight shipping! I think it'll be worth it in the end! This is looking like it might be the best submarine game made since Aces of the Deep (those were the days)! |
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I really like this post.
http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/p/46855/350422.aspx It says it all. I particularly like the opening....'Ubisoft is one of the largest video game publishing companies in the world, but when it comes to DRM (Digital Rights Management), the corporate executives at the helm have the collective intelligence of a ham sandwich'. Brilliant. ![]() |
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It says in this article that with this system "the game doesn't save before it throws you out." (!)
Does this mean when it "pauses" as you loose your connection, you don't have the option to save between then and exiting the game? Or that you do, but when it finally exits there is no automatic save? I guess we will have to wait and find out (from someone else!).
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The opening paragraqph is absolutely brilliant
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Another article in the avalanche of negative press that is burying Mr. Ubi Sammich. Is a Turkey sandwich a lower level of ham sandwich intelligence?
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A publisher will die, and a new publisher shall take its place.
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Good article. He pulled no punches.
Despite the vocal attempt of a few Ubi apologists (who, I should point out, haven't played the game either, which is always their first argument against those of us who question this DRM policy) this whole being online thing for a single player game is a really bad one. This article points out why in a clear and succinct manner. He made one very telling point. Ubi is the same company that foisted Starforce upon us. Given that track record no one should be too surprised Ubi has made yet another, unforgivable, misstep.
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They also publish from time to time drm free games (HAWX and the latest episode of Prince of Persia). Ubisoft is a publisher that when it comes to drm is very schizophrenic. Right now they are in the all or nothing DRM phase, unfortunately for those that appreciate Ubsisoft's games. |
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Ubisoft has a popup for registration you product now/ remind me in 7days/ never.
Why not do: you want to validate your product on boot/ once a day/ once a week and let keep our save game on our own computer. If it won't validate at least once a week it stops working, simple as that. Mud
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Which means you have to log on every week to validate your game? Forget that. Some of us have lives.
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Navy Seal
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Heh, here we go again, corralled into the gawd almighty thread.
![]() ![]() ![]() Well, like Iron Bodukan said elswhere, "I smell death." Nothing can save Ubi unless they start listening. By being stuck in one thread, our outraged houling is muted only a little bit.
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How about DRM that is timed to go offline by a certain date? Say a game, like SH5, has OSP that basically checks the date when you start a gaming session and log on but after say 3 months (or whatever date is selected by the devs) the game reverts to an offline version with save to hard drive. Also when one does a reinstall, the game sees that the date for OSP is past and doesn't bother with the DRM. This way their peak sales are assured and when things taper off they can give the gamers their autonomy. People who buy the game during the post sales hype will get the same version but will simply have to authenticate with an included code offline like a normal game.
Is this a good idea? A dumb idea? I don't know I'm just putting it out there. There has to be a way to make everybody happy. |
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It's a good idea. I'm sure it was discussed and would love to know why it was not pursued.
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