SH5 patch #2

[Arclight]

Aye, patience is wearing thin.

Still rather have them do it right than do it fast though.

[Westbroek]

Hang in there Arclight. It'll be worth it... I hope...

[Arclight]

Oh, it's alright.

It's just that they rushed the game, something we could have waited a bit longer for. But now it's here and needs a patch, but that gets delayed... little contradictory.

Meanwhile their "star" title SC Conviction kept getting pushed back... just would be nice if they didn't treat SH as some bastard child, trying shove it into the background so they can focus on more "promising" (ie profitable) ventures.

[Athlonic]

Originally Posted by Athlonic

A thing that would be funny :

The 1.2 patch is delayed

Reason :

Ubisoft:
After many customers complains about Silent Hunter 5 been released too early and unfinished, we have decided to delay the 1.2 patch to have time to polish it correctly.
We are always listening to our fellow costumers, you see ?
Yes that would be hillarous !

Sorry guys it's all my fault ...
I was just joking about a patch delay monday morning and here we are...

I just better have shut the f..... up.

[Ablecommand]

Never mind, get there in the end, as long as the devs sort sh5 out thats all that matters.

[havoc01]

well lets face it, the list of bugs in SH5 is long , i mean very long and to wait a few more days (Weeks) should be worth it .
Lets hope we all get the game they promised !

i can't wait too see what the modding community will have done with the game a year from now the potentual for this game in mind blowing really ..

[The General]

Originally Posted by havoc01

Well, lets face it, the list of bugs in SH5 is long , very long.

You think that list is long, you should see the list of Mods I've got . There is alot of very cool stuff done by the Community out there. Some of those Mods are compulsary, even with Patch 1.2

[Baleur]

Originally Posted by The General

You think that list is long, you should see the list of Mods I've got . There is alot of very cool stuff done by the Community out there. Some of those Mods are compulsary, even with Patch 1.2

And i say it again..

Unpaid modders doing this stuff as a hobby on their spare time = 100's of essential enhancements to the game since release.

Paid developers doing it 6 or 8 hrs a day as their job (to pay for that shiny new Porche) = around 15 bugfixes, minor and a few major since release.

If i was president of the world, they'd all be fired and every single modder would be hired instead.
And its the same with the Total War games / mod community.
And before you think that the number of modders are greater than the number of developers because of how many ppl buy the game, think again. I can count the most crucial mods authors on this forum on my fingers, not even having to use my toes

Less ppl on their free time accomplish more than a huge paid development team. Why did we pay them?

[John Channing]

You are new here so you probably aren't aware that the developers are friends of a lot of ours and we don't appreciate people insulting them.

If you want to see how little they accomplished try downloading every mod you can find without the game installed and see how far you get.

JCC

[Athlonic]

Originally Posted by Jamoz

Every person has right to give his/hers opinion.
and
Also the game is failure and nothing will change that.
are two statements that doesn't fit together...

All this story remind me of the release of Grand Theft Auto 4 on PC.
Several peoples complained about bugs and the game being unplayable, whereas I was actually enjoying and playing it without ANY problems.
And so I am again with SH5...

Maybe I am lucky, who knows ...

[John Channing]

Originally Posted by Jamoz

So the game is bugfest **** and people still have to kiss devs ass?? Every person has right to give his/hers opinion.

Also the game is failure and nothing will change that. What it will tell about SH5, that it will need truck load of mods to be even playable?

You are partially right when you say that everyone is allowed to express their opinion. Where you are wrong is in how you express your opinion. If you want to express an opinion here you do it in a respectful manner... respectful to the other posters, the developers and to Neal. No one is asking you to kiss anyone's ass but you have to remember that this is Neal's forum and his rules apply. If you want to know what thos rules are I suggest you spend a little time with the FAQ at the top of this page.

If you can't live with that then perhaps this is not the place for you.

JCC

[daft]

Originally Posted by Athlonic

All this story remind me of the release of Grand Theft Auto 4 on PC.
Several peoples complained about bugs and the game being unplayable, whereas I was actually enjoying and playing it without ANY problems.
And so I am again with SH5...

Maybe I am lucky, who knows ...

You are not alone. I'm loving the game and haven't even installed a single mod.

[bilgepump]

Originally Posted by daft

You are not alone. I'm loving the game and haven't even installed a single mod.

There are a few issues with it( I can't walk inside the sub without my fans racing into overdrive, there are ghosts stuck to the side of my boat, etc ) but overall I still think it's playable. I have had only one hiccup with the DRM( I did not buy this game, it was a gift, I was holding out for a DRM free version ) and it only lasted for a few seconds. The graphics really make a huge difference, IMHO, and make the bugs tolerable.

I can understand the opposing point of view that the game should of have been perfect out of the box, but the reality is, those days of gaming are gone. I say that gaming is now a business that only shoots for center of the road as far as player expectations go, and spend most of their resources on graphics. I would even go so far as to argue that the modding community had something to do with this. The main example that I can relate this argument to is the automobile aftermarket business. This industry brings in $257 billion yearly ( Estimated *1 ), and the logic behind that and other accessory businesses(computer,RC models,etc) is longer product viability, thus future sales on existing work.

It sucks that so many loyal silent hunter fans feel let down by Ubisoft this go around, but I guarantee that in a years time, this game will become more and more appealing to a large majority of the silent hunter fanbase because of both Ubisofts participation, and the modding community.

*1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterma...8automotive%29
(I know its wikipedia, but all of the other resources I could find wanted a fee for the information)

[robbo180265]

Originally Posted by bilgepump

There are a few issues with it( I can't walk inside the sub without my fans racing into overdrive, there are ghosts stuck to the side of my boat, etc ) but overall I still think it's playable. I have had only one hiccup with the DRM( I did not buy this game, it was a gift, I was holding out for a DRM free version ) and it only lasted for a few seconds. The graphics really make a huge difference, IMHO, and make the bugs tolerable.

I can understand the opposing point of view that the game should of have been perfect out of the box, but the reality is, those days of gaming are gone. I say that gaming is now a business that only shoots for center of the road as far as player expectations go, and spend most of their resources on graphics. I would even go so far as to argue that the modding community had something to do with this. The main example that I can relate this argument to is the automobile aftermarket business. This industry brings in $257 billion yearly ( Estimated *1 ), and the logic behind that and other accessory businesses(computer,RC models,etc) is longer product viability, thus future sales on existing work.

It sucks that so many loyal silent hunter fans feel let down by Ubisoft this go around, but I guarantee that in a years time, this game will become more and more appealing to a large majority of the silent hunter fanbase because of both Ubisofts participation, and the modding community.

*1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterma...8automotive%29
(I know its wikipedia, but all of the other resources I could find wanted a fee for the information)

+1

[ingsoc84]

Since the advent of the net, no game is perfect out of the box, some just come closer, I still think SH5 is on the way to being a gamn good dame given the modders once he initial bugs are fixed, mine plays fine on a single core but with the graphical explosion issues, that Ubisoft is even willing to address this issue for single core users when they certainly don't have to given the duo core min requirements is really to their credit, that other people have issues when they far exceed minimum specs is troubling, but still others play the game just fine, its the pitfall of designing a system to run with a gazillion different types of rigs/cpu/ram/driver/vcard/sound cards out there, and also given the also people who may be not so computer literate who don't know how even to update drivers, I'm sure there are more than a few who have issues and they could easily sort them out if they had some rudimentary knowledge. I've *itched about games before, I just realize now ONE its just a game, LIFE is more important, and EVENTUALLY the do get around to sorting out MOST the issues, and in the end, EVERYONE moves on to a new game, and all the time and effort spent on complaining about "this" or "that" game is kind of just wasted energy. Like everything in life, one must keep things in perspective.