[REL] FOTRS Ultimate Project

[cdrsubron7]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

You should be able to switch to another cam to clear that out of sectors.

Sorry, Jeff. I'm not familiar with how to do that.

[Jeff-Groves]

Can you bring up the command bar and click on the cameras?
If not, try the keyboard short cuts.

Right Mouse Button Return to Previous View
I'll go through the Menu ini to find the keyboard stuff.

[cdrsubron7]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Can you bring up the command bar and click on the cameras?
If not, try the keyboard short cuts.

Right Mouse Button Return to Previous View
I'll go through the Menu ini to find the keyboard stuff.

I did try the keyboard commands but all that happened was that the camera started sinking and nothing would stop it. I've deleted the save file, will try later and see what happens.

[Jeff-Groves]

ALBS_PBY5a_shp.dds
needs removed from the Air\ALBS_PBY5A folder.

B6N2.bak.tga
needs removed from the Air\ASW_B6N2 folder.

What is
ATBS_SwordfishNEI_T01.dds
ATBS_SwordfishNEI_T01_lr.dds
in the Air\ATBS_Swordfish folder?

Air\ALB_Junkers.Ju.52
Delete Junkers52.tga

Air\AFB_SeverskyP_35
Delete P-35Seversky.tga

AFB_NakajimaN_T02.tga files need converted to dds and roster files updated

Delete fw190a5.tga from the Air\AFB_FW_190A5 folder

ALBS_G4M_Betty.eqp in the Air\ADB_G4M_BettyBaka folder?

That's my quick look for today.

Let's clean up the trash before we add anything new.
File size will go down and possible overhead is removed on systems.

[Jeff-Groves]

Originally Posted by cdrsubron7

I did try the keyboard commands but all that happened was that the camera started sinking and nothing would stop it. I've deleted the save file, will try later and see what happens.

Roger that Mate.

[Jeff-Groves]

I need to know how each build is being done.
s7rikeback and I can fix the issues as long as they don't get duplicated in further builds.
This is important!!
I'm seeing the same issues in every beta and they should not be a continuous issue.
I can NOT fix issues if you keep putting them back in.

If We do not fix this problem?
I will be forced to back out of the Team.
Beta .26 is nearly as bad as Beta .1 and the SAME things are STILL in there!!
Look at the NCA_Deutschland folder!!
I only bang my head against a wall for so long and then I stop.

[cdrsubron7]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

I need to know how each build is being done.
s7rikeback and I can fix the issues as long as they don't get duplicated in further builds.
This is important!!
I'm seeing the same issues in every beta and they should not be a continuous issue.
I can NOT fix issues if you keep putting them back in.

If We do not fix this problem?
I will be forced to back out of the Team.
Beta .26 is nearly as bad as Beta .1 and the SAME things are STILL in there!!
Look at the NCA_Deutschland folder!!
I only bang my head against a wall for so long and then I stop.

Maybe we should freeze any new builds until all the bugs in the current on have been eliminated. No offense meant here RR, then we should have a discussion about how the next beta should be handled. We definitely need Jeff_Groves help if we're going to succeed in our endeavor to get FOTRSU off the ground. This is just my opinion, BTW.

[Jeff-Groves]

It's not just the bugs that need fixed.
There is so much trash where it should be eliminated it's just unreal to me!

You want it built right?
I'll handle it if you want.
I'm no stranger to doing builds.

RR
You are the Captain of this boat.
I will guide this boat back to port if I'm given the chance.
I can only ask that you trust me on this!

[propbeanie]

Originally Posted by s7rikeback

All,

This should solve the above problems - While keeping all the new settings and classes created.

Can you try it and report back any problems please.

... fix download

Thanks to Jeff-Groves for the fine tuning of the Bismarck / Bismark name fix.

Regards,

s7rikeback

Thank you s7rikeback, will apply tonight, probably won't get to check things closely until tomorrow morning my time, about 6 hours behind you...

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Let me get you started with some Scripts I have.


Say you get a list from 010 and want it sorted or duplicates deleted.
I have a Script that will do that.

010 can knock hours off your work load in mere seconds!

It already has eliminated so much huntin' 'n' peckin', it's nowhere near funny. I would definitely appreciate some of your scripts. If you want to post some up on the G Drive, or just PM me, if it allows attachments. I've been looking at some of the scripts in the repository, and the ones I've looked at are ~way~ above my level of understanding. I'm already into two situations where taking the results and using them would be most beneficial, especially when I think of having to do multiple changes in 248 RGGs in one MIS file... yikes...

Originally Posted by cdrsubron7

I've hit another one of those unlimited DD groups again. This time it was in the Luzon Straits in Jan, '44. First the game engine started acting up and wouldn't work. Went back to the save I had a little earlier and started from that and the free camera failed. Saw a message saying camera out of sectors or something to that effect.

... and right into that and the 248 RGGs in the "OtherTraffic" MIS file, along with all the other MIS files with RGG spawns, and me thinks that the computer can't track all that Random Generated Group stuffs ~and~ Time Compression ~and~ radar & / or sonar report ~and~ come back into the game "cleanly"...

Was it at night again cdrsubron7? Were you basically South of Formosa, North of Luzon, about in the middle? I think that performance hit is the DDs spawning away...

[cdrsubron7]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

Thank you s7rikeback, will apply tonight, probably won't get to check things closely until tomorrow morning my time, about 6 hours behind you...


It already has eliminated so much huntin' 'n' peckin', it's nowhere near funny. I would definitely appreciate some of your scripts. If you want to post some up on the G Drive, or just PM me, if it allows attachments. I've been looking at some of the scripts in the repository, and the ones I've looked at are ~way~ above my level of understanding. I'm already into two situations where taking the results and using them would be most beneficial, especially when I think of having to do multiple changes in 248 RGGs in one MIS file... yikes...


... and right into that and the 248 RGGs in the "OtherTraffic" MIS file, along with all the other MIS files with RGG spawns, and me thinks that the computer can't track all that Random Generated Group stuffs ~and~ Time Compression ~and~ radar & / or sonar report ~and~ come back into the game "cleanly"...

Was it at night again cdrsubron7? Were you basically South of Formosa, North of Luzon, about in the middle? I think that performance hit is the DDs spawning away...

No it was daytime. Everything else is affirmative.

[propbeanie]

Originally Posted by cdrsubron7

I've hit another one of those unlimited DD groups again. This time it was in the Luzon Straits in Jan, '44. First the game engine started acting up and wouldn't work. Went back to the save I had a little earlier and started from that and the free camera failed. Saw a message saying camera out of sectors or something to that effect.

Originally Posted by cdrsubron7

No it was daytime. Everything else is affirmative.

OK now, you're running with the reduced number of RGG in the SubHunters Mission files right? So there's only the TWO SubHunter groups... ??

Do you remember how much time compression you were or had used? Is there maybe something in that area of the map? Sonar, radar or visual contact?...

Edit: Well, I found another way to lock up the ME, and tight... Anyway, I did get through a bunch of the missions in the Campaign level, loading them and zooming to closer to the Luzon Straits area. There is no JP_CoastalTraffic spawns in the area there. There are no JP_Convoys spawning in there, but there are 10 different groups "routed" to go through there. Some of those convoys have destroyers. No JP_Merchants spawn near there, but there are 15 routes set through there. No destroyers, just Merchant vessel, usually two at a time.There are no JP_TaskForces spawing near there, but 4 routes set through there. No JP_TroopConvoys spawn near there, but 2 paths go nearby... Nothing spawns near the area, especially since the reduction in the SubHunters groups...

OH!!! Did you start a new career? Did you empty your My Documents folder of the old v.25beta Saves?

[cdrsubron7]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

OK now, you're running with the reduced number of RGG in the SubHunters Mission files right? So there's only the TWO SubHunter groups... ??

Correct

Do you remember how much time compression you were or had used? Is there maybe something in that area of the map? Sonar, radar or visual contact?...

Radar. Saw the group of destroyers while using the free camera, they were a long way away from my sub's position. Then the game CTDed.

Well, I found another way to lock up the ME, and tight... Anyway, I did get through a bunch of the missions in the Campaign level, loading them and zooming to closer to the Luzon Straits area. There is no JP_CoastalTraffic spawns in the area there. There are no JP_Convoys spawning in there, but there are 10 different groups "routed" to go through there. Some of those convoys have destroyers. No JP_Merchants spawn near there, but there are 15 routes set through there. No destroyers, just Merchant vessel, usually two at a time.There are no JP_TaskForces spawning near there, but 4 routes set through there. No JP_TroopConvoys spawn near there, but 2 paths go nearby... Nothing spawns near the area, especially since the reduction in the SubHunters groups...

Agreed. Went in and looked at the mis.files for that year and couldn't find anything either.

OH!!! Did you start a new career? Did you empty your My Documents folder of the old v.25beta Saves?

Affirmative. Started completely from scratch as I do every time we have a new test version come out.

[propbeanie]

OK, I've searched through v1.4, 1.5 and the FotRS stuff. Maybe someone else can explain that if we've deleted RGGs from a mis file, that they're possibly still generating? Is there any config info from SH4 on the computer, other than the SH4 game directory, and the My Documents "Save" directory?

I've been looking at all the Campaign files, trying to compare the different versions, looking for a Random Generated Group that has 3 or more destroyers generated, and I can't find any. What I can find is some RGG that have a ship set as "Leader" that may or may NOT spawn... set to 50% or lower in some cases. Could that be what does it?

[cdrsubron7]

Originally Posted by s7rikeback

All,

This should solve the above problems - While keeping all the new settings and classes created.

Can you try it and report back any problems please.

Platform Library Fix for v0.26 Beta

Thanks to Jeff-Groves for the fine tuning of the Bismarck / Bismark name fix.

Regards,

s7rikeback

I missed this yesterday, will apply tonight after I get home from work.

[Rockin Robbins]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

It's not just the bugs that need fixed.
There is so much trash where it should be eliminated it's just unreal to me!

You want it built right?
I'll handle it if you want.
I'm no stranger to doing builds.

RR
You are the Captain of this boat.
I will guide this boat back to port if I'm given the chance.
I can only ask that you trust me on this!

Jeff, you have the green light to proceed. We seem to be hitting roadblocks that are getting people frustrated and I think it's underlying technical issues that you are best to handle.

Start with any FOTRSU configuration you want, fix it and get me the link. It will become our new v0.3 Beta. So for now, rest of the crew, please stand down except for personal testing (I'll NEVER discourage that.). By all means, continue checking things out. Just keep in mind that some changes may be necessary after Jeff is done.