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Old 03-07-10, 10:57 PM   #196
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I believe that the general public that purchases the game which may be 90% of Ubisofts market does not care about the online requirements and are having a ball with the game...
Yeah, having a ball looking at the case because just like Subsim members, they won't be able to access the Ubisoft servers either.
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Old 03-07-10, 11:11 PM   #197
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Do you realize that the number of unique visitors to subsim is a substantial fraction of SH3 or SH4 sales? I'm not talking statistically significant, I'm talking majority fraction, or nearly so.
Tater and JScones: You gentlemen really do address valid points.... I just do not know.
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Old 03-07-10, 11:42 PM   #198
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Why is it people can't just keep their mouths quiet about what they do when they KNOW its against the rules to talk about it??????? Do whatever you want - but DONT TALK ABOUT IT HERE!!!!!!


OK I won't talk about it here. Instead I'll let you guess...........

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Old 03-07-10, 11:59 PM   #199
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It's what you get for volunteering to be tied to a process over which you have absolutely no control nor any meaningful redress.

You paid for it, now you've got it.

Anyone complaining about server down time or any other service interruption is wasting their breath, nor deserving of sympathy.

The ONLY way to avoid this is not to buy the game with OSP, which means not buying the game.

Had every potential customer decided not to purchase the game with OSP, Ubi would have got a clear message. Instead, the message they've got is there are enough people more interested in playing than worrying about the consequences of accepting such a system.

In short, Ubi can do whatever the hell they like as consumers are not inclined to refuse to accept OSP and/or poor quality finish.
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Old 03-08-10, 12:03 AM   #200
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Old 03-08-10, 12:09 AM   #201
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You hold me to it matey. And all the best to you.

@ Neal Stevens. Damn that "other thing" Brings nothing but heartache and grief. Should have listened to my dear old ma.

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Old 03-08-10, 12:30 AM   #202
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Hmmm... I'm really, really trying to work up some sympathy here for you guys.

Let's just say that I've felt strongly that, by buying this, you've been sending a message to Ubisoft that their new OSP is ok, and will be ok for all of their future games. It's especially been hard to see people that swore that they'd never buy it, buy it (or their, uh, wives and girlfriends).

What can I say... You've made your beds...

(and at least now you can feel a bit like my relative that lives out in the woods and can't buy Silent Hunter V due to a sometimes-on 56k connection)
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Old 03-08-10, 12:51 AM   #203
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Not looking good...

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news...ervers-Go-Down

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Ubisoft DRM Authentication Servers Go Down

Ubisoft's new DRM scheme is already causing problems, as the servers required to authenticate games went down today.

When Ubisoft announced its new DRM system, that required PC gamers to be connected to the Ubisoft servers at all times while playing, one of the biggest concerns that gamers had is what would happen if the servers went down.

Well, as it turns out, when the Ubioft severs go down, no one can play their games and Ubisoft customers get very upset. At around 8am GMT, people began to complain in the Assassin's Creed 2 forum that they couldn't access the Ubisoft servers and were unable to play their games. Fast forward ten hours and it seems that the problem still hasn't been resolved, despite the assurances from a Ubisoft representative that the servers were 'constantly monitored'

"I don't have any clear information on what the issue is ... but clearly the extended downtime and lengthy login issues are unacceptable, particularly as I've been told these servers are constantly monitored," said 'Ubi.Vigil', adding, "I'll do what I can to get more information on what the issue is here first thing tomorrow and push for a resolution and assurance this won't happen in the future."

It's unclear whether this is a worldwide problem, or just a European one, but gamers are understandably frustrated. This is a disaster that everyone saw coming, but probably didn't expect to see quite so soon.
And here, which includes a link to the AC2 forum thread full of angry pla...erm, non players.

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Old 03-08-10, 04:46 AM   #204
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There's a simple reason why Publishers get away with crap like this: Too little chance of legal recourse for the average guy on the street.

It really is high time software companies are held accountable for the quality of the product they are selling. You have more customer protection/warranty claims on 15EUR Hairdryers here in Europe than on 60EUR software.
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Old 03-08-10, 07:06 AM   #205
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Well, after drooling over the nice screenies and vids, i decided to buy the game, despite the DRM. It was a tough decision, I dont like the concept of it. After reading this, it seems UBICRAPSOFT made my decision NOT to buy the game really, really easy...

Wating for DRM to go away. By Ubisoft, or by , I dont care any more, until then, my money stays in my pocket
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Old 03-08-10, 07:09 AM   #206
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I believe that the general public that purchases the game which may be 90% of Ubisofts market does not care about the online requirements and are having a ball with the game... Do you really believe that Ubisoft really cares if Subsim members ever purchase the game??.......I think it would bring them dissapointment, but not damage their financial success reference SH5.

To be fair to us members, I believe 50% are diehard subsimmers and in their view have a valid cause to be disgruntled, but should realize that with the expertise here, it will be perfect eventually.

As far as Ubisoft is concerned in the area of sales, the chatter from Subsim are just lonely cries way off in the wilderness.
no way is it lonely cries in the night
just look at the revews at amazon.com
and the ones on the amazon UK have gone from £34.99 down to £22.73
i dont think thay can give the game away and its the same for
Assassins creed 2

http://www.amazon.com/Silent-Hunter-...owViewpoints=1
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Old 03-08-10, 07:10 AM   #207
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I believe that the general public that purchases the game which may be 90% of Ubisofts market does not care about the online requirements and are having a ball with the game...

Actually, the whole point of this thread is that these people CAN'T play the game... So unless they are having a ball taping the box to their screen, the general public are screwed as well..... It's not like Ubi went out of there way to just disconnect subsim.com people....
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Old 03-08-10, 07:40 AM   #208
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Dear Sid Meier,
Pls,bring the boys together again and resurect Microprose- simulation software.

Thx
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Old 03-08-10, 07:44 AM   #209
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Since I can't play, figured I'd find another way to spend some of my sunday afternoon and vent some frustration.

Epic first post. Join date: 2005!

As for the issue itself: All the prophecies of doom with this new DRM/OSP has come true. Was this really a surprise after all the initial outrage with the announcement of the new DRM? Where are all the people who told us to shut up and stop whining about the whole issue? Sorry, but you guys made your decision to buy despite all the warnings, so it's really hard for me to sympathize in any way (unless you are one of those very few who bought the game with NO idea about the whole DRM issue).
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Old 03-08-10, 07:47 AM   #210
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