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Charlie901 · 03-07-10, 09:04 PM

Sounds like a good basis for a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT against UBISOFT...

There has to be some type of violation of fair and legal responsibility of a product, from the Publisher, to thier consumers, especially if it keeps happening.

We are only warned about having an "Active Internet Connection" as being required to play the game not that we might not be able to play the game when we want because of their server issues.

punisher2010 · 03-07-10, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IanC

I guarantee you, he was being sarcastic.

Damn the Internet and it's inability to detect subtleties.....

03-07-10, 09:15 PM

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mikeydredd · 03-07-10, 09:15 PM

Let me just get this straight as it's late at night and I'm a bit tired.

You guys go out to work and, hopefully get a fair day's wage.

You then decide that you are going to spend your hard-earned money an your (second)favourite leisure activity and buy a legitimate copy of SHV.

You then install it on your computer and ........

IT DOES NOT WORK.

The reason for this according to Neal Stevens is it could be this, or it could be that.

Well - it could be because of any one of a million and one reasons.

But - come on gentlemen - we all have to acknowledge that this is 100%

U N A C C E P T A B L E.

I simply won't be part of it.

Dredd out

Takeda Shingen · 03-07-10, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeydredd

I simply won't be part of it.

Okay, we'll hold you to it. All the best to you.

Onkel Neal · 03-07-10, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeydredd

IT DOES NOT WORK.

The reason for this according to Neal Stevens is it could be this, or it could be that.

Or it could be the other thing

Steeltrap · 03-07-10, 09:41 PM

It's what you get for volunteering to be tied to a process over which you have absolutely no control nor any meaningful redress.

You paid for it, now you've got it.

Anyone complaining about server down time or any other service interruption is wasting their breath, nor deserving of sympathy.

The ONLY way to avoid this is not to buy the game with OSP, which means not buying the game.

Had every potential customer decided not to purchase the game with OSP, Ubi would have got a clear message. Instead, the message they've got is there are enough people more interested in playing than worrying about the consequences of accepting such a system.

In short, Ubi can do whatever the hell they like as consumers are not inclined to refuse to accept OSP and/or poor quality finish.

artao · 03-07-10, 09:48 PM

... sorry, but I could only bring myself to read about half this thread. too much. ...

All I can really do is laugh, at the situation. The two big things that were predicted to happen regarding OSP have come to pass in less than a week. Ubi OSP = EPIC fail.
Sad. all y'all's what gots the game and can't play, you have my sympathies.
That's all.
TTFN

Jerik · 03-07-10, 10:00 PM

I suspect I should apologize in this thread. I've been trying to play Devil's Advocate over the past few weeks and defending Ubisoft's ability to maintain something as simple as an authentication server. I guess the OSP is looking far worse than I'd considered.

Anyway, for those who I argued against, you were right the whole time. Shame you had to win this one though

I suspect I will be less forthcoming in defending Ubi or any DRM in the future. I doubt this incident will modify their opinion on the subject, though.

Is the server back up? Are people able to play?

Ships-R-Us · 03-07-10, 10:00 PM

I believe that the general public that purchases the game which may be 90% of Ubisofts market does not care about the online requirements and are having a ball with the game... Do you really believe that Ubisoft really cares if Subsim members ever purchase the game??.......I think it would bring them dissapointment, but not damage their financial success reference SH5.

To be fair to us members, I believe 50% are diehard subsimmers and in their view have a valid cause to be disgruntled, but should realize that with the expertise here, it will be perfect eventually.

As far as Ubisoft is concerned in the area of sales, the chatter from Subsim are just lonely cries way off in the wilderness.

mikeydredd · 03-07-10, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Okay, we'll hold you to it. All the best to you.

You hold me to it matey. And all the best to you.

@ Neal Stevens. Damn that "other thing" Brings nothing but heartache and grief. Should have listened to my dear old ma.

LiveGoat · 03-07-10, 10:39 PM

Quote from comments section at the Escapist article:

"I'm starting to think that in the long run here most devs are probably going to be successful at what seems to be (as best as I can tell) their long-term goal of pushing all games onto the consoles and completely abandoning the PC as a platform. If or when that happens all of the piracy that happens on the PC due to its relative ease are going to simply follow to the consoles while the massive power-vacuum left on the PC will be filled by what are now the 'indie' devs who won't be so abusive to their customers.
At this point I almost am wishing for that to happen already."

malkuth74 · 03-07-10, 10:46 PM

I just relized that RUSE is another game I wanted and its a UBI game... Another game I will miss out on now.

RUSE and Assassins Creed 2.

I will try to say this as nice as I can.. UBI Soft YOU

SteamWake · 03-07-10, 10:49 PM

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PC will be filled by what are now the 'indie' devs who won't be so abusive to their customers

You know that might not be all that bad.

(prays for a resurgance of papyrus, dynamix. and a few others)

tater · 03-07-10, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ships-R-Us

Do you really believe that Ubisoft really cares if Subsim members ever purchase the game??.......I think it would bring them dissapointment, but not damage their financial success reference SH5.

Do you realize that the number of unique visitors to subsim is a substantial fraction of SH3 or SH4 sales? I'm not talking statistically significant, I'm talking majority fraction, or nearly so.

03-07-10, 09:15 PM	#183
Hell_Diver Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Removed due to piracy The Management Last edited by Takeda Shingen; 03-07-10 at 09:27 PM.
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03-07-10, 09:48 PM	#188
artao Officer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 238 Downloads: 144 Uploads: 0	... sorry, but I could only bring myself to read about half this thread. too much. ... All I can really do is laugh, at the situation. The two big things that were predicted to happen regarding OSP have come to pass in less than a week. Ubi OSP = EPIC fail. Sad. all y'all's what gots the game and can't play, you have my sympathies. That's all. TTFN __________________ l8r, artao

03-07-10, 10:46 PM	#193
malkuth74 Sonar Guy Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 377 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	I just relized that RUSE is another game I wanted and its a UBI game... Another game I will miss out on now. RUSE and Assassins Creed 2. I will try to say this as nice as I can.. UBI Soft YOU __________________

03-07-10, 09:04 PM	#181
Charlie901 XO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 413 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Sounds like a good basis for a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT against UBISOFT... There has to be some type of violation of fair and legal responsibility of a product, from the Publisher, to thier consumers, especially if it keeps happening. We are only warned about having an "Active Internet Connection" as being required to play the game not that we might not be able to play the game when we want because of their server issues.

03-07-10, 09:15 PM	#184
mikeydredd Bosun Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 65 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Let me just get this straight as it's late at night and I'm a bit tired. You guys go out to work and, hopefully get a fair day's wage. You then decide that you are going to spend your hard-earned money an your (second)favourite leisure activity and buy a legitimate copy of SHV. You then install it on your computer and ........ IT DOES NOT WORK. The reason for this according to Neal Stevens is it could be this, or it could be that. Well - it could be because of any one of a million and one reasons. But - come on gentlemen - we all have to acknowledge that this is 100% U N A C C E P T A B L E. I simply won't be part of it. Dredd out

03-07-10, 09:41 PM	#187
Steeltrap Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 818 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	It's what you get for volunteering to be tied to a process over which you have absolutely no control nor any meaningful redress. You paid for it, now you've got it. Anyone complaining about server down time or any other service interruption is wasting their breath, nor deserving of sympathy. The ONLY way to avoid this is not to buy the game with OSP, which means not buying the game. Had every potential customer decided not to purchase the game with OSP, Ubi would have got a clear message. Instead, the message they've got is there are enough people more interested in playing than worrying about the consequences of accepting such a system. In short, Ubi can do whatever the hell they like as consumers are not inclined to refuse to accept OSP and/or poor quality finish.

03-07-10, 10:00 PM	#189
Jerik Seaman Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 34 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I suspect I should apologize in this thread. I've been trying to play Devil's Advocate over the past few weeks and defending Ubisoft's ability to maintain something as simple as an authentication server. I guess the OSP is looking far worse than I'd considered. Anyway, for those who I argued against, you were right the whole time. Shame you had to win this one though I suspect I will be less forthcoming in defending Ubi or any DRM in the future. I doubt this incident will modify their opinion on the subject, though. Is the server back up? Are people able to play?

03-07-10, 10:00 PM	#190
Ships-R-Us Commander Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 452 Downloads: 134 Uploads: 0	I believe that the general public that purchases the game which may be 90% of Ubisofts market does not care about the online requirements and are having a ball with the game... Do you really believe that Ubisoft really cares if Subsim members ever purchase the game??.......I think it would bring them dissapointment, but not damage their financial success reference SH5. To be fair to us members, I believe 50% are diehard subsimmers and in their view have a valid cause to be disgruntled, but should realize that with the expertise here, it will be perfect eventually. As far as Ubisoft is concerned in the area of sales, the chatter from Subsim are just lonely cries way off in the wilderness.

03-07-10, 10:39 PM	#192
LiveGoat XO Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 408 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 0	Quote from comments section at the Escapist article: "I'm starting to think that in the long run here most devs are probably going to be successful at what seems to be (as best as I can tell) their long-term goal of pushing all games onto the consoles and completely abandoning the PC as a platform. If or when that happens all of the piracy that happens on the PC due to its relative ease are going to simply follow to the consoles while the massive power-vacuum left on the PC will be filled by what are now the 'indie' devs who won't be so abusive to their customers. At this point I almost am wishing for that to happen already."