Got it (cd/dvd): First copy sighted!

[TheDarkWraith]

Originally Posted by crashed97tsi

Ok, here is an update for you on the whole DRM thing. The game plays and ran fine when my internet connection was up. So, to test the whole DRM thing, I went to go to disable my ethernet adapter.

Now, I am not trying to scare anyone here, but I am almost 100% positive that I could always disable the adapter, even when a program was using the internet connection. But for whatever reason when I went to disable the adapter this time I got this:

I would like to get my hands on the xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx . Anyone care to share? I'm not buying SH5 due to the DRM btw.


You're not going to be posting here much longer either if you keep on this track. --NS

[CCIP]

This baby will need a lot of work to truly live up to the DVD on the left, but I am very optimistic. She's looking fine and running stable.

Any info I can help clarify?

[danasan]

Hi CCIP,

can you confirm this by own experience, please?

Originally Posted by crashed97tsi
Ok, here is an update for you on the whole DRM thing. The game plays and ran fine when my internet connection was up. So, to test the whole DRM thing, I went to go to disable my ethernet adapter.

Now, I am not trying to scare anyone here, but I am almost 100% positive that I could always disable the adapter, even when a program was using the internet connection. But for whatever reason when I went to disable the adapter this time I got this:

Thanks

[CCIP]

I haven't tried disabling the adapter and frankly I don't see why I would do that while playing a game, but yes, this is true. Ubisoft's game launcher is a separate, resident program that is active all while the game is playing and takes up about 16mb RAM and a single (I think) network port while running. It generates no network traffic most of the time, in fact almost none at all. It closes and leaves the system memory the moment I close the game.

please keep in mind there is a line you should not cross when discussing the DRM protection and getting into details about how it works. posting anything about loopholes or work arounds can get you banned.

just a friendly reminder to be carefull with this topic

[danasan]

Don' t get me wrong please. I am not interested in any technical information anyway.

It is because of this:

On the board over there an "official" named BB_ScriptError (I don't know him at all, so blame me ) stated the following:

http://forums-de.ubi.com/eve/forums/...9581067538/p/2 in German language

"Hallo zusammen,

bevor sich hier noch weiter Gerüchte verbreiten:
Es werden keinerlei Systemeinstellungen verändert, Treiber oder versteckte Programme installiert.
Insbesondere wird nicht in Windows eingegriffen, um dem Nutzer die Kontrolle über seine LAN Verbindung zu entziehen."

Roughly translated:

"Hello at all,

before rumor goes on here:
None of the system settings are changed, no drivers or hidden programs are installed.
Especially Windows is not touched to take control over the rights of the user dealing with the LAN connection."

That's the case why I am interested in.

Edit: Just for the record: I do not support pirating!

[snapli]

Originally Posted by danasan

Don' t get me wrong please. I am not interested in any technical information anyway.

It is because of this:

On the board over there an "official" named BB_ScriptError (I don't know him at all, so blame me ) stated the following:

http://forums-de.ubi.com/eve/forums/...9581067538/p/2 in German language

"Hallo zusammen,

bevor sich hier noch weiter Gerüchte verbreiten:
Es werden keinerlei Systemeinstellungen verändert, Treiber oder versteckte Programme installiert.
Insbesondere wird nicht in Windows eingegriffen, um dem Nutzer die Kontrolle über seine LAN Verbindung zu entziehen."

Roughly translated:

"Hello at all,

before rumor goes on here:
None of the system settings are changed, no drivers or hidden programs are installed.
Especially Windows is not touched to take control over the rights of the user dealing with the LAN connection."

That's the case why I am interested in.

Edit: Just for the record: I do not support pirating!

This is also some kind of rumor. As it looks to me, BB_ScriptError doesn't even have a copy of SH5 running.

The question is whether SH5 uses a seperate protocol rather than TCP/IP. Maybe one of you who's already playing SH5 can answer this ...?

[piri_reis]

Originally Posted by snapli

The question is whether SH5 uses a seperate protocol rather than TCP/IP. Maybe one of you who's already playing SH5 can answer this ...?

It has to use IP encapsulated packets to get them from your machine across the network to UBI servers. That's Layer 3 traffic.
For Layer 4, it might be using TCP (most likely) or it's own protocol, which it would have to install to your computer. There's no reason they would just invent a new protocol. They are doing all the authorization, encryption and other communication in the Application layer. So I'm betting business as usual, TCP/IP under the hood, with their own application data...

Them preventing the disable Network Connection arises suspicion tho, looks like a kind of driver level software at work there..

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by crashed97tsi

So, the Ubisoft Cloud DRM is not allowing me to change a setting in MY COMPUTER. They are effectively taking control of that setting on my computer whenver their program is in use.

This is a BIG BIG deal to me, I've actually stopped playing to research this issue further. None of my other programs do this. As you can see from the screenshots, Steam has been running in the background the whole time.

I'm getting what I deserved for not doing more research. At least its supporting SH5 I guess.

Q: Why does the Ubisoft Game Launcher stop me from disabling my network connection?

A: The Ubisoft Game Launcher does not stop you from disabling the network connection. However, Windows does not allow you to stop a network connection that has an open encrypted connection. This is a feature of Windows, not the Ubisoft Game Launcher.

[ddrgn]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Q: Why does the Ubisoft Game Launcher stop me from disabling my network connection?

A: The Ubisoft Game Launcher does not stop you from disabling the network connection. However, Windows does not allow you to stop a network connection that has an open encrypted connection. This is a feature of Windows, not the Ubisoft Game Launcher.

Now that makes perfect sense.

[snapli]

True, this couldn't be a 'feature' invented by UBI, as the very same message showed up before and not in context of a game.

It'd still be interesting, though, whether UBI uses a standard protocol or not

Cheers

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Q: Why does the Ubisoft Game Launcher stop me from disabling my network connection?

A: The Ubisoft Game Launcher does not stop you from disabling the network connection. However, Windows does not allow you to stop a network connection that has an open encrypted connection. This is a feature of Windows, not the Ubisoft Game Launcher.

Well cited Neal