Terrorist attack in Paris on French magazine

[Schroeder]

I think this thread has run it's inevitable course. We only got name calling and hate over the last couple of pages and everybody has stated his opinion so I vote for locking the thing.

And for all people considering to leave: Think about with how many people you have a problem with here and with how many you get along just fine. I think it doesn't matter on which side of the spectrum you are but you'll see that you usually have a lot more people you get along with than you have people who you can't stand. So don't let yourself be pushed out over a few guys you don't like in a topic that was set to self destruction from the get go.

[MH]

And that right there is the problem, the insistence on dividing everything into "us and them", the "good guys vs. bad guys", "black and white".

No it is about diminishing certain shades really....that is also used for political reasons.

Someone mentioned Palestinian reservations...the casino is closed sorry...

Not this again...

See you in a week Tribesman

I don't think he should be banned but he is being real dick nevertheless...lol

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

I think this thread has run it's inevitable course. We only got name calling and hate over the last couple of pages and everybody has stated his opinion so I vote for locking the thing.

And for all people considering to leave: Think about with how many people you have a problem here and with how many you get along just fine. I think it doesn't matter on which side of the spectrum you are but you'll see that you usually have a lot more people you get along with than you have people who you can't stand. So don't let yourself be pushed out over a few guys you don't like in a topic that was set to self destruction from the get go.

When I suggest this I get accused of pushing for censorship!

Originally Posted by MH

I don't think he should be banned but he is being real dick nevertheless...lol

He'll be brigged for a week after the tail-chasing has finished, it's what usually happens.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

I'm not exactly surprised.

Split-tongued? Hardly. I've been perfectly clear that I find your ideas execrable, loathsome and worthy of nothing but derision and abuse. If I've been less then forthright in this regard please let me know and I'd be happy to elaborate.

I can do so with only the rubbish you've posted today. It's not difficult.

By the way, any evidence you have of me being split-tongued would be appreciated. Since it's so obvious to you it shouldn't be hard to find. Either back it up or keep your mouth shut.

Don't even consider taking this line of argument with me again.

Don't even consider bringing the idea of "basic behaviour" to your side of this argument.

It doesn't suit you. You wouldn't like it.

I repeat your words back to you. You think those who supported Charlie Hebdo after the massacre deserve nothing but pain and death. I say get that off these boards. There are plenty of places online where these views will be welcomed with open arms. I'd point you to them but I like these shoes.

Don't hide your ideas from criticism behind forum rules. You don't believe in human decency so...

Do not wish pain and misery upon good people because they don't share your opinions. Perhaps I'm asking too much. Time may tell. It may not.

That's a curious way of looking at things. The boards can handle a little conflict.

What in God's name makes you think I want a PM from you. You said these things on the forum, you get called out on it on the forum. I have no interest in making this less public.

The feeling is mutual regarding a private message. Deletion upon arrival is the policy for people like you.

Tribesman has absolutely nothing to do with this.

I'm sick of your hatred and fascism clogging up a place that I actually like. There are plenty of forums that would love to have you. Go there and say these things. You might find someone who agrees with you, I hate to say it.


Get it off my screen.

Don't ask for the protection of the rules of civilised interaction when you are fundamentally uncivilised. It doesn't suit you and you wouldn't like it.


That's classy.

Go. Away.

edit - words in the wrong order.Happens to the best of us.

Damn, if he upsets you this much, just put him on ignore, Tchocky. That's a useful tool, use it it

[MH]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Unless of course its keelhauled , which would be quite funny in a topic about an assault by people "offended" by freedom of speech

It is more of how you say what ever you say , or actually.... how you not say anything really.
When I read your post it seems that you are more focused on pissing others than actually saying something of value...and you like it.
Very disappointing....too bad it is not other way around.
Have fun anyway...mr freedom of speech.

Cheers.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

After which I will write exactly the same thing the next time the "its the muslims" topic comes up, for no other reason than the content of the posts in question are accurate and such despicable views should always be countered and shown for what they are

Unless of course its keelhauled , which would be quite funny in a topic about an assault by people "offended" by freedom of speech

The thing is though, Tribesman, you're your own worst enemy, really.

Think about it this way, I've spent the past week in the local county court, three days of which was spent in a case involving a suspected drug dealer. It was not up to the defence to prove the man innocent, but to the prosecution to prove him guilty, the presumption of innocence as it is legally known as. As such, the prosecution called two people to the stand and brought forward evidence to the jury so that we may judge whether he is innocent or guilty, and likewise the defence brought forward the defendant himself so that the same process can be undertaken.
If the prosecution had turned to the jury and said "Well, go and look for the evidence yourself" the case, and the prosecution would have been dismissed.
Likewise, if you are writing an essay for an academic institution and you quote from a book or another essay, you are asked to provide a source for this quote in the bibliography or reference section at the rear of the paper. If you were to simply write in that section "Go and look for it yourself" then you would likely receive a lot of red ink and a stern lecture from whoever you're writing the essay for.
Using the search function in Subsim isn't that hard, for example you referred to:

So when the forum owners reponse to posting terrorist supporting hate sites is, I thought n*****s was on the forum filter, is there any point?

So, you go into the search function and do this:



which gives you this:



And then when you click on the one you want, you can just click on the post number and then copy and paste the link directly into your post, like this:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...7&postcount=16

It really is not that difficult, and when you are the first to pull apart the links provided by other people and yet so reluctant to provide them yourself, it does rather create an air of hypocrisy.
So, surely it's better to provide links to your claims, using the search function, or even google if you wish, and add that extra bit of legitimacy and authenticity to your post rather than just mocking the other poster for not searching for it themselves.

[Silent Steel]

It's sad to see what this topic has come to.

Seems like it could be useful to say it again;
'I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it'


Onkel Neal - shut this down, please.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Well that's handy, while checking there was plenty of materials available relating to a certain someones views on Kosher in general and in Europe in particular I came across this good post.

I believe that is the basis of bigotry and prejudice.

Characterizing the many by observation of the few is not only statistically illogical but morally repugnant.

It sort of reminds me of Tarjaks statements before he left the forum

Who said that and where?

[Skybird]

I'm currently sitting here and typing with a friend on brief visit by my side. I told him of the recent clash I had in this forum, and showed him the past couple of pages, and while he read, I was in the kitchen preparing some tea and coffee.

And what he said afterwards, is this: "Many of those guys don't argue with you to have an analytical examination over this ideology. They argue with you because they want to prevent any critical examination of that ideology. That's why they put things in your mouth and ignore everything you point out if they do not like it."

I must agree, considering the tactics used here.

Anyhow, we now will have a good time in Assetto Corsa. You guys could give me a call when the ideology of peace has motivated another strike somehwere, somehow.

BTW: His name is Elyar. If now you conclude by the sound of that name that he is Iranian (and former Muslim), you are right. And if you think that I ridicule precious Western or Muslim sentiments on Islam, then you should invite him for a beer or two one evening and have a talk with him over these things. After that you will have fallen out of your belief in life itself, I tell you.

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by Oberon

When I suggest this I get accused of pushing for censorship!

But you're a softy lefty pinko commie Eurogirl so that's normal.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

But this isn't a court of law.

But in a way, it is, when you are trying to make a point against someone or something, if you don't properly back that point up then you don't have any substance to your argument. Now you can take a quote from someone, but if you don't specifically say WHO that someone is, then it's pretty pointless, likewise if you don't take that quote in its context then, again, it undermines the point you're trying to make. I mean, I can take a quote from you, put it out of context and try and argue that you have the same viewpoint as Skybird, when in fact, the quote is from you stating what you believe to be Skybirds viewpoint.
Again, it undermines your point when you take apart other peoples links in detail and yet refuse to cite your own. It makes you look hypocritical.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

But you're a softy lefty pinko commie Eurogirl so that's normal.

Gonna tell my Mum on you....

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I think your post was quite good right up until that last sentiment. You are also addressing a member who did nothing more than voice his own opinion. I agree with your opinion more than his in this case, but there is still no reason for that kind of comment.

Im sorry, to you, CCIP and the community here. please accept my most humble apology.

[Sailor Steve]

Always. I've apologized to so many people so many times it would be wrong of me to do otherwise to someone else. As someone once said to me, it shows real class. It also helps us get to know one another, which to me is the real reason we're here.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Im sorry, to you, CCIP and the community here. please accept my most humble apology.