Do we really need a Silent Hunter 6?

[Sailor Steve]

First, welcome aboard Deslicks and Sinkmore!

Now, down to brass tacks:

Originally Posted by Deslicks

Yes we need a new silent hunter 6, one with more options to configure crew, different and better reporting to superiors in and around u boat penns.

As I've said many times before, we don't need any new title if it's going to cost a lot of money and arrive broken and unfinished. SH3 had its problems, but it was an original and could be allowed some slack. SH4 improved on SH3, but didn't fix a lot of known bugs and had some new ones and made some "good" things bad. Before we ask for a lot of new candy we should be demanding that the problems be done away with. In fact we have been doing that for nine years now, with no results. Each new version is worse than the last. That is why we don't need a "new" SH6; an SH5 that works would be nice.

Better Graphics too cuz SH5 is kinda needing a new graphics engine badly...

Really??? I think SH5's graphics are drop-dead gorgeous. Unfortunately I also think that's the only part of the game that is worth having.

and more stock skins So we dont have to mod and deal with modding....

That will never work. How many skins should they make? Five hundred? That's the kind of thing that should be left to the modders.

Originally Posted by Sinkmore

No one's mentioned that, since this thread began, we HAVE gotten SH6 from Ubi - and it's SH-Online. I gather they didn't read this thread.

Yet another version that's been abandoned incomplete. Also due to the nature of that game it can't be modded at all, which makes it of use only to gamers, and worthless to anyone interested in simulations.

IMHO, SH3,4 and apparently SH5 (I haven't tried it), have all been modded nearly to perfection.

And in my opinion (humble or not) they aren't even close to what I would call perfection. If SH3's problems had been fixed (and none of the mods come close, nor can they), then it would have been time to add to it new actions and new graphics, and then adapt it back to the Pacific War. Then it would have been time to add an Escort game, and make them work together. Instead they kept trying to add new goodies to a broken framework they never fixed. No, for me these games are all good, and made better with mods, but all the mods in the world don't bring any of them anywhere near greatness, let alone perfection.

Actually, they keep GETTING better. So forget SH6, accept the limitations, suspend a little disbelief, and play those excellent games.

As I said, they also keep getting worse, which is the best reason not to want another Silent Hunter. As for suspension of disbelief, if you can live with truly ancient graphics then 1994's Aces Of the Deep and 1996's Silent Hunter (the original) still have the best and most immersive gameplay of them all.

[Bosje]

I dont need a silent hunter 6 but I desperately need a GWX for SH5

*runs for cover after dropping that into an ancient thread*

[onursoyturk]

If there would be USSR vs. USA chalenge during cold war in SH6, then why not?

[Aktungbby]

onursoyturk! after a long silent running

[JU_88]

'Silent hunter' is just a name, Id love another WW2 Subsim but I think its time some one else had a go.
Id be more than happy with another Free To Play subsim, (but done properly, not a browser game like SHO) since that is more likely to get the continued support and add-ons that a subsim needs.
What we really don't need is another subsim franchise model, which just keeps churning out new incomplete games to replace the old ones for the sake of eye candy and experimental concepts. I think its safe to say that Ubi have already proven that its unworkable in the long term.
Expecting a perfect sim right off the shelf is unrealistic in this day and age; quality, consumer expectations and development costs for games are now huge, while a demand for subsims.... is still pretty low.

[flag4]

Originally Posted by Bosje

I dont need a silent hunter 6 but I desperately need a GWX for SH5

*runs for cover after dropping that into an ancient thread*

BOSS

[KirinFrost]

Or a mod/SH6 that has a REAL dynamic campaign in that you can actually win the war and affect FUTURE campaigns due to your actions.

Would be great if that was made

Although i guess SH6 will never be made. The series is probably long dead. T.T

[GlobalExplorer]

Just for the record, we do not need to repeat the lessons from SH3 to 5.
They are supremely moddable but also supremely messy, so that all modders give up at some point. I don't know about you but in order for me to take up modding Silent Hunter games again, I need something cleaner. Most of SHIIIs programmers apparently were educated in Bucarest university under Ceaucescu or shortly after him. Perhaps this accounts for the fact that the programming is genius and madness at the same time. It also accounts for the bugs and possibly why UbiSoft eventually pulled out.

[bart]

I would love to see an SH6 appear, but not in the shadow of Ubisoft.

Anyone do flight simulators here? I fly online using the DCS series. It has the basic DCS world and comes with a couple of free modules (aircraft types) to let folk have a go, then you can purchase extra modules of all sorts of aircraft or helicopters with VERY detailed fully functional cockpits, professional flight models etc. It really is an awesome sim, and is in constant development by Eagle Dynamics and a squad of other third party companies making aircraft modules and is updated on a regular basis.

Now if something like this was to come along for say the battle of the Atlantic, or pacific theatre, with modules being a type VIIC Uboat, or a Flower Class Corvette, with detailed boat systems, handling etc. I would sign up to that now with no second thought needed.

Imagine what could be achieved with todays technology and graphics. It's a shame DCS wouldn't do this, or even another company.

For now I live in hope that someone will come along and do this, meanwhile I get my subsim fix from SH5 modded with Dragon's version of The Wolves Of Steel.

It's a new year......maybe this will be the one where a new subsim will surface who knows.........I live in hope.

Happy new year guy's.

[Ghoost]

I would love a SH 6 if its more like SH 3 or 4 with better graphic and all the mods pref play german in north altlantic again and hd graphic would be awsome, yeah a new version of good ole Microprose RED STORM RISING would be cool also with same as SH3 or 4

[Kensai7]

If a SH6 ever came out, which I surely hope, then Ubisoft's work could be (counterintuitively!) rather limited!

Let me explain why. Most modern games that succeed and become classics are heavily modded anyway. Ubisoft has to simply get the mechanics right, content can always come later by successful modders. I personally don't care about extreme graphics and super complete scenarios, not because I would not play them (I would!), but because I am positive they will come later in all possible nuances by gifted modders anyway.

Modders usually don't have the resources to create something in the first place, not tweak it or expand it. Thus, in my humble opinion, Ubisoft Romania must get back to the drawing board of SH3 and deliver it to us with better graphics and physics. No need for new content other than getting it up to 2015 standards and an easily moddable infrastructure. I look at what Arma3 or IL2 CoD has achieved and it is fairly possible! Rerelease SH3 as SH6 with an up-to-date easily moddable infrastructure and the magic will happen!

[ReallyDedPoet]

Welcome to SUBSIM Kensai7

I would rather someone other than UBI at this point. The folks who worked on the game were never given the adequate resources, time, really since SH3 to properly finish what they started.

Time for someone new to step in. It has happened in the past and I am hoping it will again in the future.

[Aktungbby]

Kensai7! And welcome back Ghoost after a 9 year silent run! some issues are just worth returning 2 the surface 4!!?

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