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gnirtS · 04-16-07, 07:56 AM

Possibly but i suspect you're a fairly small % of total sales.

DURUK · 04-16-07, 08:46 AM

Can anyone tell me if the fact that the hydrophones not working at PD is a bug or is a feature?? In case that was a bug i was looking forward of its sollution in the comming patch but.. alas..

Partsking · 04-16-07, 09:21 AM

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In my mind the most serious bug in the game currently is being addressed in 1.2 - namely that of the fast setting torpedos going slower than they should.

I hope you're kidding.

The most serious bug currently in the game is the campaign save issues where a CTD occurs upon reload (not to mention all the other less serious issues upon reload). They've been around since SHIII and still have not been fixed. You can't get any more showstopping than that. I don't care that you can minimize this problem if you follow a strict criteria prior to saving, its completely unacceptable, and is at best being quietly worked on, at worst, completely ignored.

First time ive heard of that back and i certainly havent experienced it myself.
Not done anything to minimise it, in fact i didnt know there was an issue until reading that post.

Torpedos missing in a submarine game is a fairly big game showstopper.

Nope. I had this happen to me over the weekend. Had two saves during a battle (e.g. burning ships, sunk ones, etc.) with a task force and was unable to reload either of them due to a CTD. No warnings, no messages, nothing. Had to go reload preattack. It's definitely there. I will say that's the only CTD I've encountered thus far.

Grotius · 04-16-07, 09:41 AM

I've only had one CTD -- the dreaded "A" bug. Other than that, the game is perfectly playable for me. In fact, it's one of the best games I've ever played. The patch will make it better. Sure, there are bugs, but I have found workarounds for virtually all of them. Yes it would've been better if Ubisoft had given the devs more time to stomp them before release, but this is hardly the first time that the pressure to make some revenue has lead to an early release.

Actually, I think the best business model is Stardock's; before the "release" of Galactic Civs IV they allowed us to "buy a beta" of the game, and their "beta" is like the "release" for many other games. They just call it something else, so people don't get mad when they find bugs. What's in a name?

Grotius · 04-16-07, 09:48 AM

Edit: double post. Sorry.

Immacolata · 04-16-07, 09:49 AM

GalCiv IV? Like WTF? You sure that isn't a typo?

TopCat · 04-16-07, 10:23 AM

Well, in the German forum it is officially stated that the Patch will be out tomorrow in the evening.

http://forums-de.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9001092274/m/2411054155

The waiting seems to come to an end soon ...

WernerSobe · 04-16-07, 10:25 AM

i cant wait for resolution and fsaa fix.

Maybe its just an eye candy for someone. Not for me. For me, looking at a 23" screen it is extremely difficult to identify ships beyond 2000 yards at low resolution of 1024x768 without AA. They all just look like a heap of pixels. Yes i want 1600x1280 and FFAA.

DeuceHalo · 04-16-07, 01:07 PM

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Seriously, is there anything in SH4 that works the way it should? I challenge anyone!

Hmmm - the periscope perhaps?

Fat Bhoy Tim · 04-16-07, 01:24 PM

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yes its sad but the game was released to early. it is not finished yet. For myself I´d rather wait another month or even two if it was finished then.

Anyway, whining wont help. All we can do now is wait for devs to finish it.

Well, that's assuming they're getting paid. Ubi may not wanna invest anymore cash into SH4. The majority of the total sales will have already happened. They're busy in they're Counting House, counting all the money.

SH3 sold a respectable figure monthly, but it did so for an extended length of time. Figure Ubi are banking on that fact, knowing people will pick it up later.

04-16-07, 01:24 PM

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This is exactly how I have wanted the thing done from day 1. It also allows for the improvement of your plotting team over time with experience.Reading various works by Dick O'Kane etc. makes it clear that this is more 'realistic' than doing everything yourself, although some people seem to think doing everything - including actual poltting - is realistic. Bollocks!

My preference would have the system plot a mark for your target on the map when you give the range (using stadimeter) and bearing (as read off the bearing ring on the outside of the scope, typically by an assistant). Continue to do this over time and you get course and speed estimates. You can then check those estimates against the poition keeper output. That's how I'd do it, and I could do away with all these imprecise plotting tools. I call range and bearing, a mark goes on map exactly based on that. That's how it 'should' be.

Oh well.....point is, something needs to be done about this as it is definitely too 'all or nothing' at present (i.e. map updates on/off and auto TDC on/off seem to be only real choices).

Wow if this could be implemented then I would be one very happy skipper!!

Deep Six

I Fourth that wish - Lets make a seperate thread about the Wanted TDC !!

Akinesis · 04-16-07, 01:51 PM

I have no staged stressed-hull sounds when I dive, and when I approached crush-depth there are no sounds with the glass being smashed or the electics fizzing. Is this to do with the sound levels being ignored? All other sounds are fine. And while I'm on the subject, my crew don't get worried like they did in SH3 when I approach crush-depth. Is this normal?

rknhorse · 04-16-07, 04:02 PM

No High Pressure air leaks slicing arms off and POPrivet's turning into lethal projectiles.. richocheting off the bulkheads

SinisterDexter · 04-16-07, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WernerSobe

i cant wait for resolution and fsaa fix.

Maybe its just an eye candy for someone. Not for me. For me, looking at a 23" screen it is extremely difficult to identify ships beyond 2000 yards at low resolution of 1024x768 without AA. They all just look like a heap of pixels. Yes i want 1600x1280 and FFAA.

Me too. Yeah it's mostly about eye-candy for me but, it's also legitimately about gameplay when you are trying to identify targets.

Snakeeyes · 04-16-07, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by WernerSobe

i cant wait for resolution and fsaa fix.

Maybe its just an eye candy for someone. Not for me. For me, looking at a 23" screen it is extremely difficult to identify ships beyond 2000 yards at low resolution of 1024x768 without AA. They all just look like a heap of pixels. Yes i want 1600x1280 and FFAA.

Me too. Yeah it's mostly about eye-candy for me but, it's also legitimately about gameplay when you are trying to identify targets.

It's a game breaker for me... I need AA.

04-16-07, 07:56 AM	#151
gnirtS Officer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South Wales, UK Posts: 237 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Possibly but i suspect you're a fairly small % of total sales. __________________ Supporting Iran against American warmongering.

04-16-07, 09:49 AM	#156
Immacolata Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 798 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	GalCiv IV? Like WTF? You sure that isn't a typo? __________________ "The power of the executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree odious, and the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist." - W. Churchill

04-16-07, 04:02 PM	#163
rknhorse Watch Join Date: May 2005 Location: NW USA Posts: 17 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	No High Pressure air leaks slicing arms off and POPrivet's turning into lethal projectiles.. richocheting off the bulkheads __________________ Rknhorse (SS qualified) (SSN) (SSBN) (ANAV) Ahead Flank Make your Depth CLASSIFIED feet smartly!!!

04-16-07, 08:46 AM	#152
DURUK Shore leave Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 70 Downloads: 95 Uploads: 0	Can anyone tell me if the fact that the hydrophones not working at PD is a bug or is a feature?? In case that was a bug i was looking forward of its sollution in the comming patch but.. alas..

04-16-07, 09:41 AM	#154
Grotius Watch Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 19 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I've only had one CTD -- the dreaded "A" bug. Other than that, the game is perfectly playable for me. In fact, it's one of the best games I've ever played. The patch will make it better. Sure, there are bugs, but I have found workarounds for virtually all of them. Yes it would've been better if Ubisoft had given the devs more time to stomp them before release, but this is hardly the first time that the pressure to make some revenue has lead to an early release. Actually, I think the best business model is Stardock's; before the "release" of Galactic Civs IV they allowed us to "buy a beta" of the game, and their "beta" is like the "release" for many other games. They just call it something else, so people don't get mad when they find bugs. What's in a name?

04-16-07, 09:48 AM	#155
Grotius Watch Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 19 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Edit: double post. Sorry.

04-16-07, 10:23 AM	#157
TopCat Helmsman Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Switzerland Posts: 105 Downloads: 113 Uploads: 0	Well, in the German forum it is officially stated that the Patch will be out tomorrow in the evening. http://forums-de.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9001092274/m/2411054155 The waiting seems to come to an end soon ...

04-16-07, 10:25 AM	#158
WernerSobe Commodore Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 625 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	i cant wait for resolution and fsaa fix. Maybe its just an eye candy for someone. Not for me. For me, looking at a 23" screen it is extremely difficult to identify ships beyond 2000 yards at low resolution of 1024x768 without AA. They all just look like a heap of pixels. Yes i want 1600x1280 and FFAA.

04-16-07, 01:51 PM	#162
Akinesis Watch Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Running deep and silent somewhere in the North Sea Posts: 22 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	I have no staged stressed-hull sounds when I dive, and when I approached crush-depth there are no sounds with the glass being smashed or the electics fizzing. Is this to do with the sound levels being ignored? All other sounds are fine. And while I'm on the subject, my crew don't get worried like they did in SH3 when I approach crush-depth. Is this normal?