[REL]Bad weather fix for SH3 - Page 10

Reece · 12-13-10, 04:36 AM

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There was just one continuous period of eight days of 'foggy-storm' off the USA in my patrols with the H.sie fix (two days with 15 m/s winds, medium visibility; six days with 15 m/s winds, heavy rain, heavy fog).

Bummer!!

h.sie · 12-13-10, 04:41 AM

65 downloads in 2 days. I would be glad to see more test reports.

h.sie · 12-13-10, 05:04 AM

@Stiebler: Your 6-days-period of storm made me sad. I never had that during my tests. So I'll have to look into the weather code again but I think I already know the reason:

I remember a scrambler (related to the counter at 0xDD02BC) that causes a bypass of the whole or at least some parts of the weather algorithm in 1 of 3 cases. and obviously, my fixes are also bypassed in 1 of 3 cases what makes them less effective.

I don't know the reason the devs added this scrambler. Maybe to disturb the strong correlation between the random numbers and the generated weather.

If my assumption really is the reason, what I hope, I will program a second version of the fix in which I simply disable the scrambler when I force good weather.

Stiebler · 12-13-10, 05:49 AM

@H.sie:

I have observed only ONE 6-day foggy-storm in about six game-months of patrols.

I would call that good - it would be very boring to have no week-long storms at all.

Stiebler.

Hitman · 12-13-10, 01:28 PM

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By the way: I must disappoint those (e.g. Hitman) who wanted me to program an enhanced weather modelling. Even this "simple" fix consists of about 70 lines of assembler and I fear to lose overview when I make deeper changes.

Oh don't worry, you have done already a huge task in opening the way

may be someone else will pick it from where you leave it in the future, and we already have a GREAT fix

I haven't been able to do much testing, but I loaded it between saves on a 1942 Drumbeat patrol to the US east coast where I had been already sitting for a week in stormy weather, and after reloading and giving it some time, the weather kicked back to something reasonable. I noticed that in general winds tend to stay higher (>5 m/s and not yet seen 0 m/s) which is a great thing, as you would only rarely see that at Sea except in the tropics on certain seasons.

This has been a tremedous mod for SH3, as it has given us the chance to really play the game as intended -with varied weather- instead of having to do forced fixes like blocking fog at all and reducing waves size.

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I have observed only ONE 6-day foggy-storm in about six game-months of patrols.

I would call that good - it would be very boring to have no week-long storms at all.

Agree! The important thing is that now you can hope realistically for the weather to improve somewhen, instead of having to go like "Sigh ... finally stuck in bad weather again"

Corsair · 12-13-10, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Take more water with it

Don't even think about it... Rhum has always been the seaman's friend. I would be cursed by my ancestors till the end of times and would have to rename my sub "Flying Dutchman"

Reece · 12-13-10, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Stiebler

@H.sie:

I have observed only ONE 6-day foggy-storm in about six game-months of patrols.

I would call that good - it would be very boring to have no week-long storms at all.

Stiebler.

That's a different story, I assumed it was only after one or two patrols!

makman94 · 12-14-10, 05:14 AM

Congratulations H.Sie !!!!
(and to Stiebler and to all rest envolved)

i play the game again (thanks to this mod) for about two days now and all that i can say is that i 'love' the way of weather's behaviour . i haven't see till today anything that annoyed me ....weather is changing as often as about every 12 hours ...not always as for windspeed .sometimes is stick at a given windspeed and changes only the visibility !
realy ,did that happened before ? haven't notice it....
anyway, i really like the weather now !!

H.Sie....also the last version of sh3.exe is working excellent !!

bravo ! bravo !

h.sie · 12-14-10, 07:14 AM

Thanks makman,

that's a nice christmas present for me.

Delareon · 12-14-10, 10:25 AM

Not sure in which of your both threads i have to ask this so i do it here:
i want to use your latest exe and the weather fix together.
Do i just need to install the exe stuff as described and activate the weather fix with jsgme?
Or is there some extra magic i didnt see so far?

h.sie · 12-14-10, 10:53 AM

@Delaron: That's exactly correct!

Delareon · 12-14-10, 02:35 PM

Thanks h.sie, for some reason i expect something like an additional batch file when i use a mod from you so i was thinking i miss something

h.sie · 12-14-10, 04:24 PM

@Delareon: If it is possible, I of course try to make JSGME compatible mods. I could do that in principle also for sh3.exe, but then I fear to get in conflict with copyright laws.

h.sie · 12-14-10, 05:58 PM

@Stiebler: Since the resonance to my weather fix V1 is positive, I think about to change the 1st post of this thread. Should I still consider your fix as an alternative or should we restrict on one solution - which is the product of a good cooperation?

I could also give you the (english) commented asm codes, maybe you are interested in enhancing the weather model?

h.sie

h.sie · 12-16-10, 03:37 PM

New version "Weather Transitions Test Fix V2" is available.

This is a weather fix ONLY for watching the weather transitions
in order to eventually adjust some parameters in scene.dat like
e.g. FogChangeSpeed.

What does this mod do?
----------------------
It triggers a weather change from "good weather" to "bad weather"
and back to "good weather" and so on exact EVERY 30 minutes.

Compatibility
-------------
- Should work with every sh3.exe.
- Tested with WinXP/32Bit and Win7/64Bit.

Version History
---------------
V2: Bugfix: Weather did not always change from good to bad and back.
V1: First Version

Download: My Mediafire page, Folder: "Testing"

12-13-10, 04:41 AM	#137
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	65 downloads in 2 days. I would be glad to see more test reports. __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie

12-13-10, 05:04 AM	#138
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	@Stiebler: Your 6-days-period of storm made me sad. I never had that during my tests. So I'll have to look into the weather code again but I think I already know the reason: I remember a scrambler (related to the counter at 0xDD02BC) that causes a bypass of the whole or at least some parts of the weather algorithm in 1 of 3 cases. and obviously, my fixes are also bypassed in 1 of 3 cases what makes them less effective. I don't know the reason the devs added this scrambler. Maybe to disturb the strong correlation between the random numbers and the generated weather. If my assumption really is the reason, what I hope, I will program a second version of the fix in which I simply disable the scrambler when I force good weather. __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie Last edited by h.sie; 12-13-10 at 05:26 AM.

12-13-10, 05:49 AM	#139
Stiebler Fuel Supplier Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,237 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 4	@H.sie: I have observed only ONE 6-day foggy-storm in about six game-months of patrols. I would call that good - it would be very boring to have no week-long storms at all. Stiebler. __________________ NYGM Tonnage War Mod - More than a mod: it's an experience!

12-14-10, 05:14 AM	#143
makman94 Hellas Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,325 Downloads: 182 Uploads: 7	Congratulations H.Sie !!!! (and to Stiebler and to all rest envolved) i play the game again (thanks to this mod) for about two days now and all that i can say is that i 'love' the way of weather's behaviour . i haven't see till today anything that annoyed me ....weather is changing as often as about every 12 hours ...not always as for windspeed .sometimes is stick at a given windspeed and changes only the visibility ! realy ,did that happened before ? haven't notice it.... anyway, i really like the weather now !! H.Sie....also the last version of sh3.exe is working excellent !! bravo ! bravo ! __________________ Knowledge is the only thing that nobody can ever take from you... Mediafire page:http://www.mediafire.com/folder/da50.../Makman94_Mods

12-14-10, 07:14 AM	#144
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	Thanks makman, that's a nice christmas present for me. __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie

12-14-10, 10:25 AM	#145
Delareon Planesman Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 192 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	Not sure in which of your both threads i have to ask this so i do it here: i want to use your latest exe and the weather fix together. Do i just need to install the exe stuff as described and activate the weather fix with jsgme? Or is there some extra magic i didnt see so far?

12-14-10, 10:53 AM	#146
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	@Delaron: That's exactly correct! __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie

12-14-10, 02:35 PM	#147
Delareon Planesman Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 192 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	Thanks h.sie, for some reason i expect something like an additional batch file when i use a mod from you so i was thinking i miss something

12-14-10, 04:24 PM	#148
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	@Delareon: If it is possible, I of course try to make JSGME compatible mods. I could do that in principle also for sh3.exe, but then I fear to get in conflict with copyright laws. __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie

12-14-10, 05:58 PM	#149
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	@Stiebler: Since the resonance to my weather fix V1 is positive, I think about to change the 1st post of this thread. Should I still consider your fix as an alternative or should we restrict on one solution - which is the product of a good cooperation? I could also give you the (english) commented asm codes, maybe you are interested in enhancing the weather model? h.sie __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie

12-16-10, 03:37 PM	#150
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	New version "Weather Transitions Test Fix V2" is available. This is a weather fix ONLY for watching the weather transitions in order to eventually adjust some parameters in scene.dat like e.g. FogChangeSpeed. What does this mod do? ---------------------- It triggers a weather change from "good weather" to "bad weather" and back to "good weather" and so on exact EVERY 30 minutes. Compatibility ------------- - Should work with every sh3.exe. - Tested with WinXP/32Bit and Win7/64Bit. Version History --------------- V2: Bugfix: Weather did not always change from good to bad and back. V1: First Version Download: My Mediafire page, Folder: "Testing" __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie Last edited by h.sie; 12-16-10 at 05:11 PM.