time to revisit SH2!?

lafeeverted · 11-15-08, 11:30 PM

I've been away from subsim for sometime and catching the bug to go back on patrol. Funny thing is I am thinking of setting up my old system again to play SH2 rather than SH3 on my current PC. Eventhough SH3 has many great things going for it, I think I really miss the old game! I spent so much time modding SH2, it got to a point where I could never finish a mission because i would stop mid game to change/improve something

. Those damn sounds were never just right :rotfl: The manual targetting in SH3 was all wrong for a U Boot and I never could find away to deal with the crew management in a way that seemed right. Anyway, Hi again to all the old guard still tinkering away with this game.

Hitman · 11-16-08, 06:03 AM

Hi Lafee, long not seen you

Yeah, SH2 was nearly a vice of his own

If it had the old AOD gameplay, I would still play it today even despite the old graphics.

lafeeverted · 11-16-08, 10:58 PM

Hi Hitman, it has been a long time! One could almost say the graphics were outdated when it was released

XabbaRus · 11-17-08, 04:21 PM

I have to get SHII off my brother.

My rig would probably play SHIII but with Starforce I won't risk it.

If I put SHII back on my PC what are the mods that I need? I think I still have the fix that Neal paid for.

Raptor · 11-22-08, 01:36 PM

Want to play with SH2? Here's two single-player campaigns you can join. Both utilize monthly-issued historical missions.

Join the third rendition of The Atlantik Kampaign.
Register for the forum at http://s2.invisionfree.com/Atlantik_Campaign

We also use SH2 together with Pacific Aces for our monthly "Pacific Aces" campaign.
http://z4.invisionfree.com/PacificWo...ex.php?act=idx

XabbaRus · 11-29-08, 07:44 AM

That's cool but what upgrades user mods are best for SHII?

lafeeverted · 11-30-08, 12:09 PM

the mods list is extensive! I think the hard part will actually be tracking them down. I suggest going to the archives and finding the SH2/classic sub games thread and do a search there for the mod lists. I will try to compile a list for as well but no time to do it today.

Hitman · 11-30-08, 03:04 PM

LIST OF ESSENTIALS (Many more things are available, but this is minimum specs to make SH2 rock enough

)
Graphics:
1024 res from subsim plus fixes (Service pack)
Any good watermod
Vickers Torpedo slicks plus fireball add-on
Many good interface mods out there, I heartly recommend: Darkstream's translucent pannels, Bergen Paints Menus, all of Jiim's mods, etc.
Sound:
Projekt Swordfish
Gameplay:
Fletcher's Mod or CB's DesV5 Mod
Campaigns & Missions
Floater's Kriegstanz
Subsim's 2nd Kampaign
Rossbach's Artic campaign generator
Aces Kampaign V2

XabbaRus · 11-30-08, 04:17 PM

What about Project Messerwetzer or whatever? Is that the thing Neal paid for?

Hitman · 12-01-08, 08:06 AM

Theoretically it is only required for multiplayer. In single player it fixes also some issues and gives you manual control of diving planes, so I guess it should be added to the list

MarkShot · 12-08-08, 01:45 PM

I really liked SH2/PA, but there was one show stopper issue for me. You cannot save/reload, since it breaks the AI.

So, aside from completing one patrol in single playing, what do you do about this?

I had a solution on my old machine. It went like this. I had a separate SH2/PA Win XP partition. It was a clone of my main system partition, but I did not maintain it. Whenever I had enough of a patrol, I would flip back to the desktop and hibernate. When I rebooted my SH2/PA partition, the game session would once again be running and I could continue without the AI going brain dead.

Although the above solution works, I consider it to be too much trouble when I can choose between AOD, SHCE, and SH3/GWX. SH2's AI was on par with SH3's in terms of being unimpressive. I still prefer AOD for superior game play.

---

Manual dive planes. I gave up using that. It was so incredibly effective it felt like cheating. You could take the boat down or up at a staggering rate.

Sailor Steve · 12-08-08, 05:52 PM

I got tired of scripted missions after one time through. I'll take SH3 or AOD for a real career any day.

MarkShot · 12-08-08, 07:35 PM

That was the brilliance of Kriegstanz and PA.

They generated what would have effectively been a rather static campaign for SH2 each time you played a campaign. However, since each generated campaign was different from the last ... they effectively achieved a dynamic campaign using a static/linear game engine. It was truly brilliant. I was really impressed.

conus00 · 12-10-08, 12:08 AM

Funny thing that you guys opened thread about SHII, because I just installed it and I am having troubles running it under WinXP/SP3.
Is there some sort of guide or tricks how to install and run it?

The Enigma · 12-10-08, 07:06 AM

Hi,

I'm thinking of buying shii.
Surfing around I discover 2 versions of SHII:
The classic version and.....

and this version....

Can somebody tell me what the differnces are/
Thanks.

11-15-08, 11:30 PM	#1
lafeeverted Chief Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 329 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	time to revisit SH2!? I've been away from subsim for sometime and catching the bug to go back on patrol. Funny thing is I am thinking of setting up my old system again to play SH2 rather than SH3 on my current PC. Eventhough SH3 has many great things going for it, I think I really miss the old game! I spent so much time modding SH2, it got to a point where I could never finish a mission because i would stop mid game to change/improve something. Those damn sounds were never just right :rotfl: The manual targetting in SH3 was all wrong for a U Boot and I never could find away to deal with the crew management in a way that seemed right. Anyway, Hi again to all the old guard still tinkering away with this game.

11-16-08, 06:03 AM	#2
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Hi Lafee, long not seen you Yeah, SH2 was nearly a vice of his own If it had the old AOD gameplay, I would still play it today even despite the old graphics. __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

11-17-08, 04:21 PM	#4
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I have to get SHII off my brother. My rig would probably play SHIII but with Starforce I won't risk it. If I put SHII back on my PC what are the mods that I need? I think I still have the fix that Neal paid for. __________________

11-22-08, 01:36 PM	#5
Raptor Weps Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Pacific NW, USA Posts: 350 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Want to play with SH2? Here's two single-player campaigns you can join. Both utilize monthly-issued historical missions. Join the third rendition of The Atlantik Kampaign. Register for the forum at http://s2.invisionfree.com/Atlantik_Campaign We also use SH2 together with Pacific Aces for our monthly "Pacific Aces" campaign. http://z4.invisionfree.com/PacificWo...ex.php?act=idx __________________ Raptor

11-29-08, 07:44 AM	#6
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	That's cool but what upgrades user mods are best for SHII? __________________

11-16-08, 10:58 PM	#3
lafeeverted Chief Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 329 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Hi Hitman, it has been a long time! One could almost say the graphics were outdated when it was released

11-30-08, 12:09 PM	#7
lafeeverted Chief Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 329 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	the mods list is extensive! I think the hard part will actually be tracking them down. I suggest going to the archives and finding the SH2/classic sub games thread and do a search there for the mod lists. I will try to compile a list for as well but no time to do it today.

11-30-08, 03:04 PM	#8
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	LIST OF ESSENTIALS (Many more things are available, but this is minimum specs to make SH2 rock enough ) Graphics: 1024 res from subsim plus fixes (Service pack) Any good watermod Vickers Torpedo slicks plus fireball add-on Many good interface mods out there, I heartly recommend: Darkstream's translucent pannels, Bergen Paints Menus, all of Jiim's mods, etc. Sound: Projekt Swordfish Gameplay: Fletcher's Mod or CB's DesV5 Mod Campaigns & Missions Floater's Kriegstanz Subsim's 2nd Kampaign Rossbach's Artic campaign generator Aces Kampaign V2 __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

11-30-08, 04:17 PM	#9
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	What about Project Messerwetzer or whatever? Is that the thing Neal paid for? __________________

12-01-08, 08:06 AM	#10
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Theoretically it is only required for multiplayer. In single player it fixes also some issues and gives you manual control of diving planes, so I guess it should be added to the list __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

12-08-08, 01:45 PM	#11
MarkShot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,134 Downloads: 93 Uploads: 0	I really liked SH2/PA, but there was one show stopper issue for me. You cannot save/reload, since it breaks the AI. So, aside from completing one patrol in single playing, what do you do about this? I had a solution on my old machine. It went like this. I had a separate SH2/PA Win XP partition. It was a clone of my main system partition, but I did not maintain it. Whenever I had enough of a patrol, I would flip back to the desktop and hibernate. When I rebooted my SH2/PA partition, the game session would once again be running and I could continue without the AI going brain dead. Although the above solution works, I consider it to be too much trouble when I can choose between AOD, SHCE, and SH3/GWX. SH2's AI was on par with SH3's in terms of being unimpressive. I still prefer AOD for superior game play. --- Manual dive planes. I gave up using that. It was so incredibly effective it felt like cheating. You could take the boat down or up at a staggering rate. __________________ War games, not wars! --- Only a small few profit from war (that should not stand)!

12-08-08, 05:52 PM	#12
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I got tired of scripted missions after one time through. I'll take SH3 or AOD for a real career any day. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

12-08-08, 07:35 PM	#13
MarkShot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,134 Downloads: 93 Uploads: 0	That was the brilliance of Kriegstanz and PA. They generated what would have effectively been a rather static campaign for SH2 each time you played a campaign. However, since each generated campaign was different from the last ... they effectively achieved a dynamic campaign using a static/linear game engine. It was truly brilliant. I was really impressed. __________________ War games, not wars! --- Only a small few profit from war (that should not stand)!

12-10-08, 12:08 AM	#14
conus00 Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2008 Location: DB85 Posts: 804 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 0	Funny thing that you guys opened thread about SHII, because I just installed it and I am having troubles running it under WinXP/SP3. Is there some sort of guide or tricks how to install and run it? __________________

12-10-08, 07:06 AM	#15
The Enigma Seer of visions Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Under the surface Posts: 2,315 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Hi, I'm thinking of buying shii. Surfing around I discover 2 versions of SHII: The classic version and..... and this version.... Can somebody tell me what the differnces are/ Thanks. __________________