The US car industry

Catfish · 11-14-08, 08:13 AM

Hello,
i also like the older US cars, they have a style of its own, indeed they are the inventors of styling. I also like the British classic cars, and still own a small '69 Triumph Spit Mk3 which b.t.w. needs much less fuel than a "modern" car with its failing electronics. But then it has only covered 260.000 miles, and a new VW will certainly last longer (this is a JOKE, b.t.w.). Has anyone calculated the energy balance of a new produced car ? The german Porsche Cayenne needs some 40-70 liters per 100 km, but it is an ecological car with its new catalytic converter. Ask our government.

There is no doubt that human behaviour has something to do with the world's changing climate, but even without that it is quite idiotic to BURN coal, and especially oil. Oil is a good resource for plastic parts of all kinds, and the medical industry.

But what really strikes me is this idiotic peak oil theory probably made up by the large companies. I still think this was made up to raise oil prices beyond any "natural" barrier. As a geologist and having worked quite a bit about and with oil i can say there is no end of resources in sight - you will maybe not find mega fields in Houston, and Iraq anymore, but there's still some more to explore in the rest if the world (Siberiy, chinese continental shelf and a lot of otheres, certainly without direct US control). The prices are - apart from the taxes applied - much too high. Oil is traded as a rare substance, which it is not. The price is completely artificial. Seems capitalism is eating itself up here without a real competition. There was competition in earlier times, at least seven big companies trying to outdo themselves. Now there are four left, but they talk to another. A cartel, no competition, and nothing to do with free market economy.

We should certainly develop other fuels or energy concepts, for draining the world's batteries and producing CO2 is not really clever, but selling oil at high prices because it is artificially made "rare" ? Next they will sell you salt water, and limestone while you are sitting on an island of limestone.

Greetings,
Catfish

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,766 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Hello, i also like the older US cars, they have a style of its own, indeed they are the inventors of styling. I also like the British classic cars, and still own a small '69 Triumph Spit Mk3 which b.t.w. needs much less fuel than a "modern" car with its failing electronics. But then it has only covered 260.000 miles, and a new VW will certainly last longer (this is a JOKE, b.t.w.). Has anyone calculated the energy balance of a new produced car ? The german Porsche Cayenne needs some 40-70 liters per 100 km, but it is an ecological car with its new catalytic converter. Ask our government. There is no doubt that human behaviour has something to do with the world's changing climate, but even without that it is quite idiotic to BURN coal, and especially oil. Oil is a good resource for plastic parts of all kinds, and the medical industry. But what really strikes me is this idiotic peak oil theory probably made up by the large companies. I still think this was made up to raise oil prices beyond any "natural" barrier. As a geologist and having worked quite a bit about and with oil i can say there is no end of resources in sight - you will maybe not find mega fields in Houston, and Iraq anymore, but there's still some more to explore in the rest if the world (Siberiy, chinese continental shelf and a lot of otheres, certainly without direct US control). The prices are - apart from the taxes applied - much too high. Oil is traded as a rare substance, which it is not. The price is completely artificial. Seems capitalism is eating itself up here without a real competition. There was competition in earlier times, at least seven big companies trying to outdo themselves. Now there are four left, but they talk to another. A cartel, no competition, and nothing to do with free market economy. We should certainly develop other fuels or energy concepts, for draining the world's batteries and producing CO2 is not really clever, but selling oil at high prices because it is artificially made "rare" ? Next they will sell you salt water, and limestone while you are sitting on an island of limestone. Greetings, Catfish