What is the republican party's next move?

[AVGWarhawk]

I think Jindal is a stand up guy and did one hell of a job with both hurricanes this year. He should be look at seriously IMO. However, is Jindal an American born citizen?

[Zachstar]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I think Jindal is a stand up guy and did one hell of a job with both hurricanes this year. He should be look at seriously IMO. However, is Jindal an American born citizen?

I respect Jindal as the leader of my state. But his views are rather wack and can only succeed in die hard pro-life and pro-death penalty states.

If the pubs want to run him. Go ahead. Plenty for us to tear about so dems win in 2016. (Jindal is not dumb enough to try in 2012)

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

However, is Jindal an American born citizen?

Why? Is that important? :rotfl: :rotfl:

Sorry couldent resisit.

[MothBalls]

Where to go from here and who's to blame for the downfall of the Republican Party?

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/...ef=mpstoryview

[August]

I recall that 8 years ago people were debating whether the Democrats would ever win back Congress let alone the oval office. The truth of the matter is that it's always easier to criticize the party in power than it is to have to decide the best course of action. The Dems will surely fall again just like they have in the past. The pendulum must swing and it will.

That's what makes my country great...

[bookworm_020]

They will do what happens here in Australia after a party is beaten out of office after being there for years.

1 blame the other side for lying

2 When it is shown that they lied too, they blame each other

3 Decide who to blame and see them fired / scapegoated / burnt at the stake

4 Throw the next election chances due to being too busy ploting to be the next leader, pbeing the leader and trying to get rid of the ones who want to be

5 Take the negative line against everything the other party wants to do and block them at every turn

6 Get back in when the other side has grown lazy / tired / board or has stuffed up beyond what spin can control.

Cycle then restarts!

[FIREWALL]

Here's a fresh take on this topic ... I don't know and like the rest of you in a year won't give a sheet. :p

[Zachstar]

Originally Posted by August

I recall that 8 years ago people were debating whether the Democrats would ever win back Congress let alone the oval office. The truth of the matter is that it's always easier to criticize the party in power than it is to have to decide the best course of action. The Dems will surely fall again just like they have in the past. The pendulum must swing and it will.

That's what makes my country great...

Looking forward to you wondering what happened after dems win big in 2012 and 2016.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

If that is all, then it is nothing special, because it is like this in almost all Western countries. Socialists and Conservatives in France, Labour and Torries in England, Christian Democrats and Social Democrats in Germany - left and right the pendulum goes over the years and decades. And no natural law says that it has to be naturally attached to just one side, forever.

Since WWII, 12 D-years of Roosevelt and Truman, 8 R-years of Eisenhower, "8" D-years of Kennedy and Johnson, "8" R-years of Nixon+ Ford, 4 D-years of Carter, 12 R-years Reagan + Bush, 8 D-years Clinton, 8 R-years of Bush, 4 or 8 D-years of Obama.
Democratic : Republican presidential years 36(40) : 36. what is so special there?

Wowh, I managed that list by memory only. Can anyone do this with German chancellors as well?

[August]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Looking forward to you wondering what happened after dems win big in 2012 and 2016.

Counting your chickens before they're hatched i see. That's what done in the Republicans...

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Looking forward to you wondering what happened after dems win big in 2012 and 2016.

If they dont manage to make a total wreck out of things the balance of power will slowly cycle once again.

I think once americans get over the 'rock star' image and begin to learn the agenda attitudes will change.

When congress starts dicking around with peoples retirement accounts, taxes ballon out of control with little to nothing to show for it attitudes will change.

When the chosen one begins to renig or scale back his promises after a reality check attitudes will change.

meh its all cyclic anyhow like global warming it gets warmer then it cools down rinse repeat nothing new here.

[August]

Originally Posted by Skybird

If that is all, then...

Our pendulum has been swinging for over two centuries. When (if) your country equals that, then you can claim there isn't anything special to it...

[donut]

http://news.newsmax.com/?KKCDXKpjZaA...mo_code=70D7-1

[Blacklight]

The old formulas are more and more unlikely to work in attracting voters.

I agree with this. The conservative message and philosophies are "out of date" and "out of touch" with the younger and new voters. More and more, the Republican rallies look like old, predominately white, old folk conventions at a country club. Their message and way of doing things just doesn't resonate with the majority of young people who are just getting into the staggering job/houseing/loan market and finding nothing there for them. Add to that a war that's draining millions every hour from us and you definitely will have the younger people turning away from the "Old Folks Convention". The old way of doing things is no longer applicable in today's society.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Sure. The people voted for Obama, and the very clear majority of first voters and young voters voted for him - because the Republicans are not conservative enough. Logical!

the simple truth is that the young ones and many people who over the past years moved into the Us or moved inside the US into historical Republöican strongholds, were not republican, and were not interested in conservatism. By ethnic and demographic chnages and age structures and ethnic migration patterns I cannot see that trend ending. So, republicans need to reinvent a new form of wjhat it means to be Republican. The old formulas are more and more unlikely to work in attracting voters.

And I remember that you and me had a discussion on that some years ago, where I already predicted that!

No, most people voted for Obama because he has charisma. You and your prediuctions. Honestly, I don't recall that, but you certainly have a thing for trying to predict future events and then reminding everyone about it. What's the motivation for that? I do remember, however, you predicted (loud and often) that the Iraq war would end badly for the US (quagmire, insurgents, Viet Nam 2.0) but that hasn't panned out for you. Of course, you may be right in the end, after Jan and Lord Obama pulls a Clinton in Somalia act

Ten years ago I predicted Jobs would spur Apple back into competitiveness, but I didn't tell anyone except my broker. Best $7500 I ever invested.