What is the republican party's next move?

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Republicans need to stop acting like Democrats, get back to conservative basics.

Sure. The people voted for Obama, and the very clear majority of first voters and young voters voted for him - because the Republicans are not conservative enough. Logical!

the simple truth is that the young ones and many people who over the past years moved into the Us or moved inside the US into historical Republöican strongholds, were not republican, and were not interested in conservatism. By ethnic and demographic chnages and age structures and ethnic migration patterns I cannot see that trend ending. So, republicans need to reinvent a new form of wjhat it means to be Republican. The old formulas are more and more unlikely to work in attracting voters.

And I remember that you and me had a discussion on that some years ago, where I already predicted that!

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Sure. The people voted for Obama, and the very clear majority of first voters and young voters voted for him - because the Republicans are not conservative enough. Logical!

the simple truth is that the young ones and many people who over the past years moved into the Us or moved inside the US into historical Republöican strongholds, were not republican, and were not interested in conservatism. By ethnic and demographic chnages and age structures and ethnic migration patterns I cannot see that trend ending. So, republicans need to reinvent a new form of wjhat it means to be Republican. The old formulas are more and more unlikely to work in attracting voters.

And I remember that you and me had a discussion on that some years ago, where I already predicted that!

Do you ever break your arm patting yourself on your back? :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Sure. The people voted for Obama, and the very clear majority of first voters and young voters {and multiple voters} voted for him - because the Republicans are not conservative enough. Logical!

the simple truth is that the young ones and many people who over the past years moved into the Us or moved inside the US into historical Republöican strongholds, were not republican, and were not interested in conservatism. By ethnic and demographic chnages and age structures and ethnic migration patterns I cannot see that trend ending. So, republicans need to reinvent a new form of wjhat it means to be Republican. The old formulas are more and more unlikely to work in attracting voters.

And I remember that you and me had a discussion on that some years ago, where I already predicted that!

Fixed for you...

Actually it does make sense, alot of conservative republicans did not like McCain and felt in some ways the best thing would be for him to lose, not to mention votes that went to third party / write in candidates.

The election was not the 'landslide' as painted in the popular media. Yes he took the majoirty of electoral votes but thats another topic. In the popular vote it was actually pretty close.

[Zachstar]

The next move needs to be to Ron Paul.

Right now the urge is to throw Jindal or Sarah into the fire for 2012. Yet all indications are 2012 will be just as difficult for a pub to win as 2008.

If the republicans want to win they have one chance. Technology. They must embrace new advancements and sever all times to the oil and fossil fuels of the past. McCain gained lots of ground with this approach before the repubs shut him up and made him talk about RW crap and "Drill baby Drill!"

Otherwise all you have to say is oil party again in 2012 and the defeats will pour in.

[AVGWarhawk]

I think Jindal is a stand up guy and did one hell of a job with both hurricanes this year. He should be look at seriously IMO. However, is Jindal an American born citizen?

[Zachstar]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I think Jindal is a stand up guy and did one hell of a job with both hurricanes this year. He should be look at seriously IMO. However, is Jindal an American born citizen?

I respect Jindal as the leader of my state. But his views are rather wack and can only succeed in die hard pro-life and pro-death penalty states.

If the pubs want to run him. Go ahead. Plenty for us to tear about so dems win in 2016. (Jindal is not dumb enough to try in 2012)

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

However, is Jindal an American born citizen?

Why? Is that important? :rotfl: :rotfl:

Sorry couldent resisit.

[MothBalls]

Where to go from here and who's to blame for the downfall of the Republican Party?

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/...ef=mpstoryview

[August]

I recall that 8 years ago people were debating whether the Democrats would ever win back Congress let alone the oval office. The truth of the matter is that it's always easier to criticize the party in power than it is to have to decide the best course of action. The Dems will surely fall again just like they have in the past. The pendulum must swing and it will.

That's what makes my country great...

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Sure. The people voted for Obama, and the very clear majority of first voters and young voters voted for him - because the Republicans are not conservative enough. Logical!

the simple truth is that the young ones and many people who over the past years moved into the Us or moved inside the US into historical Republöican strongholds, were not republican, and were not interested in conservatism. By ethnic and demographic chnages and age structures and ethnic migration patterns I cannot see that trend ending. So, republicans need to reinvent a new form of wjhat it means to be Republican. The old formulas are more and more unlikely to work in attracting voters.

And I remember that you and me had a discussion on that some years ago, where I already predicted that!

No, most people voted for Obama because he has charisma. You and your prediuctions. Honestly, I don't recall that, but you certainly have a thing for trying to predict future events and then reminding everyone about it. What's the motivation for that? I do remember, however, you predicted (loud and often) that the Iraq war would end badly for the US (quagmire, insurgents, Viet Nam 2.0) but that hasn't panned out for you. Of course, you may be right in the end, after Jan and Lord Obama pulls a Clinton in Somalia act

Ten years ago I predicted Jobs would spur Apple back into competitiveness, but I didn't tell anyone except my broker. Best $7500 I ever invested.

[subchaser12]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

I do remember, however, you predicted (loud and often) that the Iraq war would end badly for the US (quagmire, insurgents, Viet Nam 2.0) but that hasn't panned out for you.

Ummm, I hate to be rude and point this out, but Iraq has been a total disaster. Well, maybe not a total disaster. It has been a billion dollar godsend for the contractors in Iraq. They are the only real winners in the war. Half my family was tempted with 100,000 a year jobs in Iraq. From cops to ex-military. None of us accepted, there isn't enough money to get tortured to death on youtube by a bunch of dancing insurgents.

[FIREWALL]

[fatty]

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Why are you posting this in every thread? I don't get it.

[bookworm_020]

Originally Posted by fatty

Why are you posting this in every thread? I don't get it.

He's just driving up his post count!

(must stop myself doing this!)

[August]

Originally Posted by bookworm_020

He's just driving up his post count!

(must stop myself doing this!)

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