Flash: OBAMA IS PRESIDENT!!!

AngusJS · 11-05-08, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

If not, remember, Marxism always fails in the end, be patient.

Yes, because Obama and the Democrats have stated repeatedly that 1) capitalism has created a working class which owns nothing but its labor; 2) the internal contradictions of capitalism will lead to ever-increasing crises, which will eventually completely divide the world into the proletariat and the owner class and spark a revolution; 3) during this revolution, the proletariat will seize the means of production, ushering in a new mode of economic organization - communism; and 4) it is the duty of Marxists to prepare the workers for this day.

That's the Democratic platform. You can read about it on Obama's website and everything.

GlobalExplorer · 11-05-08, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AngusJS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

If not, remember, Marxism always fails in the end, be patient.

Yes, because Obama and the Democrats have stated repeatedly that 1) capitalism has created a working class which owns nothing but its labor; 2) the internal contradictions of capitalism will lead to ever-increasing crises, which will eventually completely divide the world into the proletariat and the owner class and spark a revolution; 3) during this revolution, the proletariat will seize the means of production, ushering in a new mode of economic organization - communism; and 4) it is the duty of Marxists to prepare the workers for this day.

That's the Democratic platform. You can read about it on Obama's website and everything.

: link or it's not true :

Btw point 1) is obvious, 2) is debatable, it's only with the other predictions about klassenkampf and communist utopia when Karl Marx lost his mind.

Task Force · 11-05-08, 03:38 PM

I hope obama dose the job as president good.

Im not gona say anything bad about him untill he dose something bad, he might be one of the countrys best presidents. We realy dont know yet.

AngusJS · 11-05-08, 10:38 PM

Global Explorer & Neal:

Sorry for the confusion; I meant that as sarcasm. I was trying to show how different Democratic ideology is from Marxism. Believing in raising taxes and increasing government regulation does not a Marxist make.

Global Explorer, in what way is point 2 debatable? I read a fair piece of Marx back in the day, but don't remember much.

Onkel Neal · 11-05-08, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AngusJS

That's the Democratic platform. You can read about it on Obama's website and everything.

Really? Can you come up with a link? I want to see that for myself.

Biggles · 11-05-08, 05:34 PM

I must say, Obama is one hell of a speaker

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AngusJS Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 746 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Global Explorer & Neal: Sorry for the confusion; I meant that as sarcasm. I was trying to show how different Democratic ideology is from Marxism. Believing in raising taxes and increasing government regulation does not a Marxist make. Global Explorer, in what way is point 2 debatable? I read a fair piece of Marx back in the day, but don't remember much.