Do you always report a convoy?

Rockin Robbins · 10-29-08, 12:43 PM

In Edward Beach and Eugene Fluckey's books, the skippers in a wolf pack tended to physically rendezvous and confer in person rather than use the radio for comparing notes and strategy sessions. They hated to use the radio according to these two authors.

Buddahaid · 10-29-08, 02:50 PM

Seems we're really in general agreement. I thought you were indicated it was rarely or never done. Too bad SH4 does not allow contact reports after contact has been broken. I never do it because of that "feature".

Buddahaid

SteamWake · 10-29-08, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Seems we're really in general agreement. I thought you were indicated it was rarely or never done. Too bad SH4 does not allow contact reports after contact has been broken. I never do it because of that "feature".

Buddahaid

Yea... check this thread here http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=143683

aanker · 10-29-08, 03:32 PM

I never make contact reports; this is Silent Hunter! .... lol

Happy Hunting!

Art

Seminole · 10-29-08, 04:12 PM

I don't report ...because I can never seem to remember to do so....I guess I have some wierd-o mental block about making reports....maybe it is a form of rebelling against authority that I never outgrew.

But since you mentioned this I am going to make it a point to report from now on, at least for a while, and see what happens.

Buddahaid · 10-29-08, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Seminole

I don't report ...because I can never seem to remember to do so....I guess I have some wierd-o mental block about making reports....maybe it is a form of rebelling against authority that I never outgrew.

But since you mentioned this I am going to make it a point to report from now on, at least for a while, and see what happens.

I don't see reporting as brown nosing to authority. Reporting a fleet contact or major resupply run would be giving a heads up to your fellow servicemen, saving lives. The sad part is SH4 does not allow one to make reports as they were really done, as I understand it. I like to play according to the doctrine of the day, not using shortcuts or whatever else that makes 100,000 ton single patrols possible. As it is, I still come in with too large "bags". In any case, making a report before attacking cannot be good advice, so I wonder why Ubi even included it. Better wrong than not at all, or a trap for added combat excitement? As I stated before, I don't do it, I just pretend I gave one after breaking off.

Buddahaid

breadcatcher101 · 10-29-08, 11:16 PM

If I am not in my AO I will report a convey. Sometimes I am given the green light, sometimes not. BTW your report does give the speed which comes in handy.

tater · 10-31-08, 11:45 AM

We're sort of in agreement. If a USN sub made a contact report it was almost certainly after an attack, and only then if an end-around was no longer possible—the only exception literally being a handful of patrols that were explicitly ordered to report first, orders which were later changed since it was such an awful idea.

That said, such contact reports would be rare indeed, IMO, particularly earlier in the war (pre-1944).

Unfortunately the game mechanics for campaign design assume pretty constant back and forth with home, something that was entirely true of the KM and IJN, but something almost completely untrue of USN doctrine.

I imagine the number of KM and IJN subs sunk due to breaking radio silence is some multiple of the total number of USN subs sunk to all causes.

10-29-08, 12:43 PM	#1
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	In Edward Beach and Eugene Fluckey's books, the skippers in a wolf pack tended to physically rendezvous and confer in person rather than use the radio for comparing notes and strategy sessions. They hated to use the radio according to these two authors. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

10-29-08, 04:12 PM	#5
Seminole Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,012 Downloads: 102 Uploads: 0	I don't report ...because I can never seem to remember to do so....I guess I have some wierd-o mental block about making reports....maybe it is a form of rebelling against authority that I never outgrew. But since you mentioned this I am going to make it a point to report from now on, at least for a while, and see what happens. __________________

10-29-08, 02:50 PM	#2
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,323 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	Seems we're really in general agreement. I thought you were indicated it was rarely or never done. Too bad SH4 does not allow contact reports after contact has been broken. I never do it because of that "feature". Buddahaid

10-29-08, 03:32 PM	#4
aanker Pacific Thunder Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yellow Sea Posts: 1,896 Downloads: 236 Uploads: 14	I never make contact reports; this is Silent Hunter! .... lol Happy Hunting! Art

10-29-08, 11:16 PM	#7
breadcatcher101 Captain Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southeastern USA Posts: 546 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	If I am not in my AO I will report a convey. Sometimes I am given the green light, sometimes not. BTW your report does give the speed which comes in handy.

10-31-08, 11:45 AM	#8
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	We're sort of in agreement. If a USN sub made a contact report it was almost certainly after an attack, and only then if an end-around was no longer possible—the only exception literally being a handful of patrols that were explicitly ordered to report first, orders which were later changed since it was such an awful idea. That said, such contact reports would be rare indeed, IMO, particularly earlier in the war (pre-1944). Unfortunately the game mechanics for campaign design assume pretty constant back and forth with home, something that was entirely true of the KM and IJN, but something almost completely untrue of USN doctrine. I imagine the number of KM and IJN subs sunk due to breaking radio silence is some multiple of the total number of USN subs sunk to all causes.