One of those 'if a tree falls and there's no-one there' questions..

BasilY · 10-22-08, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by difool2

Once I severely damaged a medium liner (one of those liner/freighter hybrids) and blew her prop off, but had no torps left and the weather was too nasty to surface and finish her with my guns. I left, and a day later I saw a single ship IDed as the one I had damaged sailing along 100 km behind her convoy. I even capsized a British CA in SH4, got credit for the sinking, only to see her sailing along just fine on the big map a period of time later.

All ships sunk in shallow water (as long as any part of the ship still stick out of the water), or dead in the water, afloat but not sunk, will be repaired magically, as soon as you are far enough away(out side the migical rendering range perhaps?) and be on their path at regular speed (and all armament restored). If you have already got credit for the first sinking, the second sinking won't count, it happened to me more times to count. Even if I play the patrol continuously without save/reload.

Graf Paper · 10-22-08, 05:29 PM

That's a little phenomenon game developers refer to, technically, as "respawning".

Yes, if a unit respawns during the same patrol, you get no credit for additional sinkings of that unit.

I just know that disappoints all you skippers that had thought of camping out near Scapa or Liverpool for repeat kills on capital ships. :p

And thanks for clarifying the range required for getting a kill credit, CCIP and jimbuna. It certainly does make it safer being 30km away, rather than in the lap of your kill as it's screaming out an S.O.S. to every ASW vessel in the area!

Commander Gizmo · 10-22-08, 06:35 PM

You'd have to be a really good shot to do it, but I read somewhere that the ships can't send out an SOS if you blow up their radio room. Anyone know how fast you'd have to do that to keep them from getting out a message?

Graf Paper · 10-22-08, 08:13 PM

If you mean taking out the radio shack with the deck gun, then you'd have to blow it up in one shot before you were spotted by the lookouts.

Otherwise, you'd have to rely on breaking the ship in half with a well-placed torpedo. I think that will stop any chance of an S.O.S. getting out, but you never know for sure just how the AI does things sometimes.

Jimbuna · 10-24-08, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Commander Gizmo

You'd have to be a really good shot to do it, but I read somewhere that the ships can't send out an SOS if you blow up their radio room. Anyone know how fast you'd have to do that to keep them from getting out a message?

Great....if only it were true.

Radio rooms (working or otherwise) are not modelled into the ships.

SOS messages (the hypothetical type) are managed by the game engines SDK.

Graf Paper · 10-24-08, 04:19 PM

So the times I've expended ammo demolishing the superstructure or spent an extra torpedo to break a ship's back were all wasted effort for trying to prevent a radio message from getting out?

Too bad there isn't some way to attach a node to the model that, once that node is destroyed, it sets the % chance a ship radios for help to zero. :hmm:

Ah well.

Jimbuna · 10-24-08, 05:17 PM

BE MORE AGGRESSIVE!!.....SINK EM ALL!!

.....and prepare for GWX3.0

Commander Gizmo · 10-24-08, 05:34 PM

I believe that I remember the idea of preventing radio transmissions from an interview with the devs. Perhaps it didn't actually make it into the game.

10-22-08, 05:29 PM	#2
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	That's a little phenomenon game developers refer to, technically, as "respawning". Yes, if a unit respawns during the same patrol, you get no credit for additional sinkings of that unit. I just know that disappoints all you skippers that had thought of camping out near Scapa or Liverpool for repeat kills on capital ships. :p And thanks for clarifying the range required for getting a kill credit, CCIP and jimbuna. It certainly does make it safer being 30km away, rather than in the lap of your kill as it's screaming out an S.O.S. to every ASW vessel in the area! __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.

10-22-08, 08:13 PM	#4
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	If you mean taking out the radio shack with the deck gun, then you'd have to blow it up in one shot before you were spotted by the lookouts. Otherwise, you'd have to rely on breaking the ship in half with a well-placed torpedo. I think that will stop any chance of an S.O.S. getting out, but you never know for sure just how the AI does things sometimes. __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.

10-24-08, 04:19 PM	#6
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	So the times I've expended ammo demolishing the superstructure or spent an extra torpedo to break a ship's back were all wasted effort for trying to prevent a radio message from getting out? Too bad there isn't some way to attach a node to the model that, once that node is destroyed, it sets the % chance a ship radios for help to zero. :hmm: Ah well. __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.

10-24-08, 05:17 PM	#7
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,561 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	BE MORE AGGRESSIVE!!.....SINK EM ALL!! .....and prepare for GWX3.0 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

10-22-08, 06:35 PM	#3
Commander Gizmo Watch Officer Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 339 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 4	You'd have to be a really good shot to do it, but I read somewhere that the ships can't send out an SOS if you blow up their radio room. Anyone know how fast you'd have to do that to keep them from getting out a message?

10-24-08, 05:34 PM	#8
Commander Gizmo Watch Officer Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 339 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 4	I believe that I remember the idea of preventing radio transmissions from an interview with the devs. Perhaps it didn't actually make it into the game.