Regarding "Dive Time"

Erich dem Roten · 10-21-08, 10:33 PM

Well my main concern is planes. Sometimes, even if I hit 'p' and going flank after getting the first sign of airborne radar, planes can still manage to drop close enough to cause damage. It gets annoying crash diving every time, though. Wish there was a command for 'dive planes max down angle' or something.

rifleman13 · 10-21-08, 10:41 PM

I think it's "D" by default...:hmm:

After hitting "D" the boat will continue to dive until
1. You intervene i.e. hit "A" to level off

or
2. You leave the boat alone in shallow waters and incur some type of damage...

or
3. You leave the boat alone in deep waters and continue to dive past crush depth and ... you know the rest

I think that's the closest thing you have to maxing your planes down.

Steeltrap · 10-21-08, 10:49 PM

Note you can also edit the crash dive depth for each sub.

I have 'crash' set for 50m - deep enough to avoid aircraft weapons, shallow enough not to take too long before levelling out.

I recall Peter Cremer (U-333: the Story of a U-Boat Ace) pointing out that the required standard in training (as conducted in the Baltic) was to go from surfaced to 20m in 25 seconds (pretty sure that's right but I can check), so I think the dive time for the type VII is possibly a little long if anything.

Erich dem Roten · 10-21-08, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Steeltrap

Note you can also edit the crash dive depth for each sub.

I have 'crash' set for 50m - deep enough to avoid aircraft weapons, shallow enough not to take too long before levelling out.

I recall Peter Cremer (U-333: the Story of a U-Boat Ace) pointing out that the required standard in training (as conducted in the Baltic) was to go from surfaced to 20m in 25 seconds (pretty sure that's right but I can check), so I think the dive time for the type VII is possibly a little long if anything.

Through the various sub config files, I'm guessing? It'd be nice to have a crash depth a little shallower. And I'd love to get under in 25 seconds. Even if the IX's were fast for their size, it's still damn slow when you can see the planes angling down for their dive :p

Steeltrap · 10-21-08, 10:55 PM

Yes, in the config for each sub you'll find 'CrashDepth=Xm' (or something like that).

Change it and the sub will then level out of a crash at that depth.

I find 50m a good compromise - useful in all but the most shallow water and deep enough to get away from bombs/DCs dropped from aircraft.

Graf Paper · 10-21-08, 10:57 PM

That's why you try to run with "decks awash" during daylight hours when you're sailing in areas heavily patrolled by aircraft.

It does slow your boat's surface speed down a bit but it also cuts dive time in half.

Commander Gizmo · 10-21-08, 11:04 PM

Isn't there a way to adjust the dive planes manually using the 3d dials? Seems like I used to know how to do that. Was that a mod or something?

meduza · 10-22-08, 06:22 AM

I wonder, is the Crash dive any faster then pressing "D" and going flank? I'd say not, but I may be wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commander Gizmo

Isn't there a way to adjust the dive planes manually using the 3d dials? Seems like I used to know how to do that. Was that a mod or something?

In stock game, and GWX, it is not possible. And I'm not aware of any mod that allows it.

Letum · 10-22-08, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commander Gizmo

Isn't there a way to adjust the dive planes manually using the 3d dials? Seems like I used to know how to do that. Was that a mod or something?

perhaps you are remembering the last SH2 patch?

nikbear · 10-22-08, 11:48 AM

Also I belive its venatore who does a mod that lets you alter the crash dive depth to different presets 30m,40m, 50m's I seem to recall,its JSGME ready and very useful,a great little mod

10-22-08, 12:05 PM

Will We ever See the Dive Planes Work Visually?Like We Did In Silent Hunter 2?
On Silent Hunter 3?Worth A Modders Look into? I Guess?:hmm:

10-21-08, 10:33 PM	#1
Erich dem Roten Electrician's Mate Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 134 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Well my main concern is planes. Sometimes, even if I hit 'p' and going flank after getting the first sign of airborne radar, planes can still manage to drop close enough to cause damage. It gets annoying crash diving every time, though. Wish there was a command for 'dive planes max down angle' or something. __________________

10-21-08, 10:57 PM	#6
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	That's why you try to run with "decks awash" during daylight hours when you're sailing in areas heavily patrolled by aircraft. It does slow your boat's surface speed down a bit but it also cuts dive time in half. __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.

10-22-08, 11:48 AM	#10
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Also I belive its venatore who does a mod that lets you alter the crash dive depth to different presets 30m,40m, 50m's I seem to recall,its JSGME ready and very useful,a great little mod __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

10-22-08, 12:05 PM	#11
owner20071963 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Dive Planes Will We ever See the Dive Planes Work Visually?Like We Did In Silent Hunter 2? On Silent Hunter 3?Worth A Modders Look into? I Guess?:hmm:

10-21-08, 10:41 PM	#2
rifleman13 Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2008 Location: Depth-charged to Kingdom Come Posts: 927 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	I think it's "D" by default...:hmm: After hitting "D" the boat will continue to dive until 1. You intervene i.e. hit "A" to level off or 2. You leave the boat alone in shallow waters and incur some type of damage... or 3. You leave the boat alone in deep waters and continue to dive past crush depth and ... you know the rest I think that's the closest thing you have to maxing your planes down.

10-21-08, 10:49 PM	#3
Steeltrap Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 818 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Note you can also edit the crash dive depth for each sub. I have 'crash' set for 50m - deep enough to avoid aircraft weapons, shallow enough not to take too long before levelling out. I recall Peter Cremer (U-333: the Story of a U-Boat Ace) pointing out that the required standard in training (as conducted in the Baltic) was to go from surfaced to 20m in 25 seconds (pretty sure that's right but I can check), so I think the dive time for the type VII is possibly a little long if anything.

10-21-08, 10:55 PM	#5
Steeltrap Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 818 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Yes, in the config for each sub you'll find 'CrashDepth=Xm' (or something like that). Change it and the sub will then level out of a crash at that depth. I find 50m a good compromise - useful in all but the most shallow water and deep enough to get away from bombs/DCs dropped from aircraft.

10-21-08, 11:04 PM	#7
Commander Gizmo Watch Officer Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 339 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 4	Isn't there a way to adjust the dive planes manually using the 3d dials? Seems like I used to know how to do that. Was that a mod or something?