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Old 10-11-08, 10:42 PM   #31
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Doesn't matter really which side of this two sided coin you look at. Both are just as dirty.
And that is the trap you fall into. To insist on the firing of a police officer that abused his position by tasering a 10 or 12 year-old is now just as dirty as using time paid for by your employer, telephones paid for by your employer and equipment paid for by your employer to do not just personal business but party business specifically declared illegal by Alaska law. At that point you render yourself entirely unreliable in detecting right from wrong.

Let me see, if it's a family member being tasered you can't morally do anything about it? That sounds wrong. If it's a family member or former family member doing the tasering it isn't wrong and you can't take action? That sounds not quite right either. How about if both of them are family members or former family members. Then SURELY you are guilty of ethics violation for insisting on justice. Naw! That isn't right either.

She did the right thing. I would do the same and gladly accept any negative consequences. Let's put it this way. If she were a doctor and knew of such abuse and did not report it she would be a felon. But then, what's a little abuse between family members? Surely she should have just let that slide.
I don't disagree. It's just boggling to see both sides every 4 years tryin' to make each other out to be worst people on the stage, and they forget the old saying, of pointing a finger at someone and you have three pointing back at you.

I think what she did was upstanding, and decent. I have a lot of admiration for people who are willing to do what's right reguardless of the consequences. That's how I raised my kids to be. Don't follow like lemmings, stand out and speak your mind even if it means walkin' on thin ice. Finding anyone in public office with the morals and fortitude to do the right thing these days is refreshing.

It's just that none of them are that squeeky clean, and yet that is what they try to represent themselves as.
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Old 10-12-08, 05:27 AM   #32
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I remember people here calling it a "stroke of genious" from McCain to choose her...:hmm: :rotfl:
I seem to remember that one too :hmm:
So do I. In fact when the news first hit the wires on his choice of running mate and I remarked in a thread that IMO it was not a wise choice I was told off in no uncertain terms that as a South African I knew nothing of US politics. Having lived in America for a number of years, having Americans as business partners, visits back and forth, degrees in politics with one at masters level (Federalism) amongst others, I now have to smile somewhat

Now she gets booed - not so much the 'hockey mom' now is she.

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"Flyers fans, show Philadelphia's class and welcome America's #1 hockey mom, Sarah Palin," the massive electronic message board pleaded, to little effect. Booing quickly erupted when the smiling candidate emerged from a tunnel leading onto the ice, muffling the applause of any Palin supporters in the crowd.
Some in the audience simply gave her a thumbs down gesture. Others called her names.
Palin spent about a minute and a half on center ice, posing for pictures with Flyers captain Mike Richards and New York Rangers assistant captain Scotty Gomez, an Alaska native. The crowd commotion was sustained for her entire time in the rink.
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Old 10-12-08, 06:27 PM   #33
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Hardly the whole story I'd think. But it's CNN so we expect that.

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Just like a FOX fanboy to cry "BIASED REPORTING!".
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Old 10-13-08, 08:12 PM   #34
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Here's something that's funny. Shows FOX News' biased reporting:

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Hardly the whole story I'd think. But it's CNN so we expect that.

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Just like a FOX fanboy to cry "BIASED REPORTING!".
I don't read Fox.

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Old 10-13-08, 08:24 PM   #36
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Hardly the whole story I'd think. But it's CNN so we expect that.

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Just like a FOX fanboy to cry "BIASED REPORTING!".
I don't read Fox.

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Well, I'll admit that you do normally stick to other sources, but the manner in which you talk about this subject is... startlingly similar to FOX newscasters... like the "Overcoming Liberalism: A 12-Step Program" thread. I mean... it's almost exactly like what they'd do.

You must read their site and watch their news. You would be happy.
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Well, I'll admit that you do normally stick to other sources, but the manner in which you talk about this subject is... startlingly similar to FOX newscasters... like the "Overcoming Liberalism: A 12-Step Program" thread. I mean... it's almost exactly like what they'd do.

You must read their site and watch their news. You would be happy.
Unlike most people, i make my own opinions man. I read it all, take in all of it, and post the garbage and the good together.

And please do not label me.

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Then I (reprising this) should have said your opinions generally follow the opinions of FOX News, and you would feel quite welcome and at home if you were to begin keeping up and along with them more.

I imply, I don't label here and now.
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Old 10-13-08, 08:44 PM   #39
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Then I (reprising this) should have said your opinions generally follow the opinions of FOX News, and you would feel quite welcome and at home if you were to begin keeping up and along with them more.

I imply, I don't label here and now.
I don't like someone making opinions for me. Anyone can do that, so i would not feel at home reading Fox on a daily, or even weekly basis. Too much BS thrown in the middle to stick with one news cast. I however don't care much for CNN since it is influenced by Hillary's holdings in the parent company, and I have no idea what bug crawled up the NYT's you know what - they have the easiest articles to pick apart on the planet. Outside of that, I like to read most anything, and then I like to pick it apart based on reality. That's the fun part.

If you read most stories, they are lacking key details. Case in point is this thread - it was stated that Palin never overstepped her authority by the chief investigator (A key detail lacking from CNN's report) - though I held off on that detail waiting for everyone to put their foot in their mouths! :p They all fell into the trap. Too easy.

But all that is besides the point. The real meat is, if you had an Ex brother in law that you didn't like, that might be good enough to get rid of him simply for being an Ex brother in law. You are hampering the jobs of both positions due to the awkward situation to start with, not to mention one party has authority over the other - any large company in this situation, particularly the lower ranked Ex brother in law would be expected to step down or transfer from the position. Not a healthy work environment if you don't already get along, and even if you do, it still might be unethical. Same mentality goes for superiors directly responsible for their lovers - its a bad work ethic. No larger company would tolerate it - ever.

This is what happened here.

Now you might get where I am coming from.

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