Task Force question (GWX)

nirwana · 10-01-08, 03:27 AM

I remember a post where it's mentioned that the type of the group depends on the first entry in the shiplist of the script. Looks funny when at first its a large convoy, turns into a neutral small convoy and after lacking merchants into a task force after multiple raids.

HuskerNlincoln · 10-01-08, 10:12 AM

I am playing GWX 2.1 and last evening rec'd a report of a large task force.

I too was hoping to see battle wagons, heavy cruisers, something, but it was loaded, with large tankers, ammunitions ship, and troop ships.

I remember it because there were quite a few troop transports and everyone of them was skinned differently, some were gray, some were in measure 22 camo, some were just the normal paint job, I think even different camo schemes.

Unfortunately I only got two sunk.

GoldenRivet · 10-01-08, 10:19 AM

A task force is not always going to consist of large battleships and fleet carriers.

a task force could be 3 flower corvettes escorting a tramp steamer.

it could be any number of things. as far as what the game logic uses to determine whether or not it is a task force - i dont know.

I have intercepted task forces that have been 3 or 4 flower class and i have intercepted task forces which have been battleships, cruisers, destroyers, and fleet carriers!

you just never know what your going to get.

IMHO port raiding in GWX is too easy.

In real life - port raiding after 1941-42 was a one way ticket

HuskerNlincoln · 10-01-08, 10:25 AM

One thing I have noticed in GWX, that wasn't in the stock SHIII, and adds a little excitement is the fact that I have run into a few single Empress freighters close in to the eastern side of England, and they are being escorted by torpedo boats.

I can usually get a torp off and still duck the torpedo boat.

Last night I snuck up on the freighter from behind, and the torpedo boat was out front leading it. I attacked with the deck gun, the torepedo boat spun around and came for me, I got him with the deck gun.

But the little things they have added really does add an element of suprise and makes me keep going out again.

Jimbuna · 10-01-08, 11:10 AM

Yeah, as pointed out by GR.....Task Forces are in the main, a collection of warships...........Size is irrelevant

Sailor Steve · 10-01-08, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

IMHO port raiding in GWX is too easy.

In real life - port raiding after 1941-42 was a one way ticket

Actually, in real life port raiding after October 1939 was...well, it wasn't. As in it never happened at all. so dangerous they didn't even try.

HuskerNlincoln · 10-01-08, 01:56 PM

I went home at lunch and played for a while, I am at the eastern side of England, basically headed out of Wilhelmshaven and headed towards the eastern coast above the channel, all of a sudden a task force popped up, I got into position, raised the scope and there were 2 escorts with 2 columns of ships. Mostly Large Merchants and a couple of Empress Frieghters, again the paint schemes were different on every ship.

SO I guess just a couple warships, will give this the name of a Task force?

Or is it scripted as to where these ships are going or what they're doing?, say to support a landing or something, and that's why they are named a task force?

Don't know but sank a few of them, had to come back to work so paused the game

bigboywooly · 10-01-08, 02:02 PM

groups are called a task force if the lead unit is a warship
Lead unit for ME\campiagn file purposes doesnt mean the lead unit in game
So even a whole convoy with a sub as leader will show as a TF

predavolk · 10-03-08, 08:21 AM

What they said. In my quest to finish up, I went after a big task force and found it was a collection of frigates and small merchants. Hardly the big targets I was looking for!

So I just let it pass.

10-01-08, 10:12 AM	#2
HuskerNlincoln Gunner Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lincoln NE Home of The Huskers Posts: 97 Downloads: 272 Uploads: 0	I am playing GWX 2.1 and last evening rec'd a report of a large task force. I too was hoping to see battle wagons, heavy cruisers, something, but it was loaded, with large tankers, ammunitions ship, and troop ships. I remember it because there were quite a few troop transports and everyone of them was skinned differently, some were gray, some were in measure 22 camo, some were just the normal paint job, I think even different camo schemes. Unfortunately I only got two sunk. __________________ HuskerNLincoln http://www.axishistory.com/fileadmin...ting-leigh.jpg

10-01-08, 10:19 AM	#3
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	A task force is not always going to consist of large battleships and fleet carriers. a task force could be 3 flower corvettes escorting a tramp steamer. it could be any number of things. as far as what the game logic uses to determine whether or not it is a task force - i dont know. I have intercepted task forces that have been 3 or 4 flower class and i have intercepted task forces which have been battleships, cruisers, destroyers, and fleet carriers! you just never know what your going to get. IMHO port raiding in GWX is too easy. In real life - port raiding after 1941-42 was a one way ticket __________________

10-01-08, 10:25 AM	#4
HuskerNlincoln Gunner Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lincoln NE Home of The Huskers Posts: 97 Downloads: 272 Uploads: 0	One thing I have noticed in GWX, that wasn't in the stock SHIII, and adds a little excitement is the fact that I have run into a few single Empress freighters close in to the eastern side of England, and they are being escorted by torpedo boats. I can usually get a torp off and still duck the torpedo boat. Last night I snuck up on the freighter from behind, and the torpedo boat was out front leading it. I attacked with the deck gun, the torepedo boat spun around and came for me, I got him with the deck gun. But the little things they have added really does add an element of suprise and makes me keep going out again. __________________ HuskerNLincoln http://www.axishistory.com/fileadmin...ting-leigh.jpg

10-01-08, 11:10 AM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Yeah, as pointed out by GR.....Task Forces are in the main, a collection of warships...........Size is irrelevant __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

10-01-08, 01:56 PM	#7
HuskerNlincoln Gunner Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lincoln NE Home of The Huskers Posts: 97 Downloads: 272 Uploads: 0	I went home at lunch and played for a while, I am at the eastern side of England, basically headed out of Wilhelmshaven and headed towards the eastern coast above the channel, all of a sudden a task force popped up, I got into position, raised the scope and there were 2 escorts with 2 columns of ships. Mostly Large Merchants and a couple of Empress Frieghters, again the paint schemes were different on every ship. SO I guess just a couple warships, will give this the name of a Task force? Or is it scripted as to where these ships are going or what they're doing?, say to support a landing or something, and that's why they are named a task force? Don't know but sank a few of them, had to come back to work so paused the game __________________ HuskerNLincoln http://www.axishistory.com/fileadmin...ting-leigh.jpg

10-01-08, 03:27 AM	#1
nirwana Sonar Guy Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 380 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	I remember a post where it's mentioned that the type of the group depends on the first entry in the shiplist of the script. Looks funny when at first its a large convoy, turns into a neutral small convoy and after lacking merchants into a task force after multiple raids.

10-01-08, 02:02 PM	#8
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	groups are called a task force if the lead unit is a warship Lead unit for ME\campiagn file purposes doesnt mean the lead unit in game So even a whole convoy with a sub as leader will show as a TF __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

10-03-08, 08:21 AM	#9
predavolk Weps Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 369 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	What they said. In my quest to finish up, I went after a big task force and found it was a collection of frigates and small merchants. Hardly the big targets I was looking for! So I just let it pass.