The Presidential Debate- Who won?

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Shhhh

That is supposed to be a secret. We don't want the population to know that.

You appear to be blighted by the same lack of choice we have in the UK

[geetrue]

Only the republicans can say, "We couldn't come up with anyone better"
to run against a black/saudi/kind of white guy with polictal savy and charisma.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

You appear to be blighted by the same lack of choice we have in the UK

One of these days, at some time during my lifetime, I hope there will be an election where I will have a candidate that I WANT to be in office.

Far too often I am just voting against someone, or voting for the lessor of two douche-bags.

I just want a candidate that I can feel good about!! Is that too much to ask for???

Evidently in America it is.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Platapus

One of these days, at some time during my lifetime, I hope there will be an election where I will have a candidate that I WANT to be in office.

Far too often I am just voting against someone, or voting for the lessor of two douche-bags.

I just want a candidate that I can feel good about!! Is that too much to ask for???

Evidently in America it is.

Same in the UK (at present anyway)

[Platapus]

Sometimes it appears that the only types of people willing to run for office are exactly the types we don't want in office.

[JoeCorrado]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Sometimes it appears that the only types of people willing to run for office are exactly the types we don't want in office.

Thank God for Barrack Obama. A real change, change we can believe in.

[Task Force]

Myself as of now im sick of the both of them, I am tierd of seeing there advertiseing/ Political Commercials on TV

[Sea Demon]

I counted a number of things Obama has reversed himself on since the primary season just a short time ago. From using power from nuclear plants, Iran issues, Iraq and the surge, military funding, and a couple of others. He doesn't seem to know where he stands on anything. And will say whatever sounds best to suit the audience it's presented to. In regards to being a CINC, McCain was correct when he said Obama doesn't know a strategy from a tactic. I thought that line summed up pretty well how Obama views our presence and direction in Iraq, our goals in Afghanistan, and what premature withdrawal will mean. Obama looked very lacking in tact, very inexperienced, and completely dishonest in his many reversals of view. McCain called him on it. Unfortunately for Obama, he doesn't seem to think his words are part of the public record.

[Task Force]

The main question I ask myself....

Will they ever do it, and are they just talking out there A**holes....

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

I counted a number of things Obama has reversed himself on since the primary season just a short time ago. From using power from nuclear plants, Iran issues, Iraq and the surge, military funding, and a couple of others. He doesn't seem to know where he stands on anything.

What is more important for a President

1. Keeping one position regards of changing environments or information

2. Being willing to revise a position when the environment changes or there is new information?

Personally I want a President who is not afraid to change his/her position when situations change or there is new information.

[Hylander_1314]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

Thankfully Biden will be dealing with current affairs.

As a note to those who are a little less enlightened on American history, it was the 31st president of the United States, Herbert Hoover of the Republican Party, who was president during the Great Depression. A loathsome politician indeed.

Wouldn't it be ironic if our current market crashed in October? It would be "Black Tuesday" all over again.

Have you got a video or news article with Biden saying that? I'd love to read more about it. Reminds me of how President Bush (the current Bush; not Old Man Bush) couldn't spell "Connecticut", the state he was born in:

http://www.hermanmulder.nl%20(weblog...ent=873&topic=

Stealth Hunter, I heard it on KOA 630 AM Radio, during the Kaplas and Silverman Show. I think it was on wednesday's or thurdays show.

There was also a bit where it sounded like he was trying to blow off a young voter who was questioning him on some of his policies in Ohio, and to dodge it, he responded with a statement about a tornado in Missouri, or Kansas and the 10,000 people died there, and he had to go. Again same radio station and talkjocks.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by Platapus

What is more important for a President

1. Keeping one position regards of changing environments or information

2. Being willing to revise a position when the environment changes or there is new information?

Personally I want a President who is not afraid to change his/her position when situations change or there is new information.

Yeah, except conditions haven't changed in any significant manner between his last days of primary season. Definitely not even slightly enough to warrant total and dramatic reversals of point of view to the extent he shows now and the audience he is on display in front of. I also like a President who can revise policy positions as well due to changing circumstances. But that is not what Obama is displaying here. And it's totally apparent to any observer with even the shortest of memories.

[AVGWarhawk]

My take without reading the others in this post:

McCain: Had the edge with the military and world affairs. But by only small margin. He is befuddled with the economy. He seemed a bit more confident then Obama. McCain still extrudes the old school Washington. My feelings here is we will never get over Old School Washington. To many old goats running the place. Others who are new fall in line.

Obama: Focused to much on Afganistan. There is more world trouble other than Afganistan. (McCain seems to realise this and has the slight edge of 26 years of experiencing it). Obama seemed to stumble and stutter on some questions, ie. Obama likes to stump and use what he thinks the crowd wants to hear. In other words, he is not questioned. He is free to speak what he likes. However, under direct questioning, he started to show his inexperience to me. I noticed this as well when FOX had an interview with Bill O'Reilly. He should have known O'Reilly would go for the juggular. Obama is just as befuddle with the economy. Last, Obama needs to stop saying, "I think". Everyone here thinks. We need a leader who "knows".


I call it a even toss up. Although this was to be McCains night on foriegn policy, much of it was the economy. Me thinks the VP debate and VP as a whole will determine this race to the White House. I'm looking forward to the the VP debate. I wonder how much of a bulldog with lipstick Palin will be?

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by Hylander_1314

Stealth Hunter, I heard it on KOA 630 AM Radio, during the Kaplas and Silverman Show. I think it was on wednesday's or thurdays show.

There was also a bit where it sounded like he was trying to blow off a young voter who was questioning him on some of his policies in Ohio, and to dodge it, he responded with a statement about a tornado in Missouri, or Kansas and the 10,000 people died there, and he had to go. Again same radio station and talkjocks.

Don't forget that Obama believes there's more than 50 states in the Union. And they think Bush is an idiot.....

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Don't forget that Obama believes there's more than 50 states in the Union. And they think Bush is an idiot.....

Ok what was the mistake he made? Was it the use of the word state or the number 57?