Wow! This explains how our financial crisis happened to a T!

[SteamWake]

Again the law of un-intended consiquences.

Some legislation to avail houses to those whom cant really afford them... brilliant.

A desperate stab at socalisim come back to haunt us all.

[geetrue]

Last month I found a lady that saw a vision of this latest wall street problem.

I read it and scoffed at it being just another way to upset everyone, thinking that how could she know anything in advance and if she did where did that infomation come from?

Are we all just puppets on a stage?

2008/08/03/vision the american economy regarding the dow jones-index

Originally Posted by Miriam Fraklin

A Vision re the American Economy & The Dow Jones Index

Originally Posted by Miriam Fraklin

I have previously prophesied (since around about one year ago on this blog) specifically on the American economy, that recession and a type of finanical collapse is coming - and worse still that already has come in that year since I said that, I expect still to occur based on what I have seen last year and indeed the year before that, and also again now.

Originally Posted by Miriam Fraklin

Today, upon awaking, I felt God whisper to me “The Dow”, and saw something significantly detrimental happen to it. Though I do not that much about economics at all, I know enough to know the Dow Jones is in some way a reflection of the financial health of the USA nation and is tied in with the stock market, though I do not understand the mechanisms at all. [See comments in the section below where this is explained}
Anyway, simply, I saw this Dow Jones go in a very negative manner, while retail prices (for what I thought was for every day consumer items like food, not just for gas etc) really went up considerably, at the same time as the Dow went down, so it was like two complete opposites I saw.
And I saw and it was like a large hand was upon the line of the Dow Jones graph, pushing the lines down considerably for what seemed a persistant time period (like not just one dip that would quickly correct itself).

[SUBMAN1]

Hey Geetrue - if you search long and hard enough, you will always find someone who saw a vision. Once in a while, you will find one that comes true simply because of the odds. There were plenty of people in New York for examples saying the end of the world was coming in the 1980's, more that said the stock market is doomed, and more still that said WWIII is about to happen in the year 2000. We are all still here.

Pure coincidence is the point.

-S

[Sailor Steve]

Good video. Thanks!

I also agree with your last comment. It's like predicting the weather: the one lucky enough to be right (this time) always says "See? I was the only one who got it right!" They conveniently ignore the 9,999 times they were wrong.

[Hylander_1314]

The biggest problem is the government is getting too involved in what should be private business. Since when is the nation's economy up to the person in the oval office?! The economy isn't free to have ups and downs naturally, it is controlled by the Federal Reserve. But now we have politicians sticking their fingers into the pie, and it's a pie hardly any of them have a clue about, and it's a recipe for disaster. Man how I wish men like John Jay, Patrick Henry, Edmund Randolph,James Madison, and Samual Adams were here today. They would have the courage to set things straight again. Even though they weren't perfect.

[Molon Labe]

He redid it and slowed it down a little bit. A great find, I'm passing it everywhere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU6fuFrdCJY

[XabbaRus]

What I don't get is that as soon as the government wants to intervene I see these claims of socialism creeping in, shock horror that can't be allowed.

[goldorak]

Originally Posted by Hylander_1314

The biggest problem is the government is getting too involved in what should be private business. Since when is the nation's economy up to the person in the oval office?! The economy isn't free to have ups and downs naturally, it is controlled by the Federal Reserve. But now we have politicians sticking their fingers into the pie, and it's a pie hardly any of them have a clue about, and it's a recipe for disaster. Man how I wish men like John Jay, Patrick Henry, Edmund Randolph,James Madison, and Samual Adams were here today. They would have the courage to set things straight again. Even though they weren't perfect.

The Economy is not a private affair. With the failing of the most important economy in the world you have political ramifications. Not only worldwide but inside the US as well.
The economy must thrive inside a series of rules, without rules you only have caos, and in the end its society that ends up paying the bill.
Because the cost of not paying is just to terribile to contemplate.
Deregulation at all costs is bull****, and having rules doesn't mean haveing a socialist or communist state.

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by goldorak

The Economy is not a private affair. With the failing of the most important economy in the world you have political ramifications. Not only worldwide but inside the US as well.
The economy must thrive inside a series of rules, without rules you only have caos, and in the end its society that ends up paying the bill.
Because the cost of not paying is just to terribile to contemplate.
Deregulation at all costs is bull****, and having rules doesn't mean haveing a socialist or communist state.

No pun intended but Italy is one place in EU that is really messed up in this regard you are commenting, Italy looks to rest of EU in constant state of chaos.

[Hylander_1314]

Originally Posted by goldorak

The Economy is not a private affair. With the failing of the most important economy in the world you have political ramifications. Not only worldwide but inside the US as well.
The economy must thrive inside a series of rules, without rules you only have caos, and in the end its society that ends up paying the bill.
Because the cost of not paying is just to terribile to contemplate.
Deregulation at all costs is bull****, and having rules doesn't mean haveing a socialist or communist state.

Actually, in the United States of America, it is. Or at least it's supposed to be. This is where it all started some 90 years ago, at least in America, to go downhill.

"This Act (the Federal Reserve Act, Dec. 23rd 1913) establishes the
most gigantic trust on earth. When the President (Woodrow Wilson) signs
the Bill, the invisible government of the Monetary Power will be
legalised... The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated
by this banking and currency Bill." Congressman Charles A. Lindberg Sr.

This is a good read too: http://www.yamaguchy.netfirms.com/78...ndb_index.html

And here is what Woodrow Wilson said after signing the Federal Reserve Act into law:

"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men." -Woodrow Wilson, after signing the Federal Reserve into existence

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by Hylander_1314

The biggest problem is the government is getting too involved in what should be private business.

Exactly there the ones that screwed it up in the first place.

It started as a noble and decent idea but then the goverment got involved more and more "Housing for all!" was the cry. (Sounds familiar to me somehow).

At any rate now we look to the clowns that created the crisis in the first place to solve it???

As we speak they are at least trying to slip in earmarks, pet programs, assume pension funds from the unions, and on and on. All in all a dramatic shift towards shift of the economy to a socialist model. They call it a "Global Market". A global market... pffft... As they say you can put a suit of silk on a monkey but its still a monkey.

This is not what the founding fathers had in mind.

[goldorak]

The economy in the founding fathers day was a little bit different from what we have now. Don't you think its ridiculous to continuosly refer to the founding fathers intent as far as economic theory goes ?
Economic ideals are different from political ones.
The later can and do have relevance even after many centuries but economic ideals no. They change as society changes, unless you want to sustain that american economic model still reflects that of late eighteen early ninteen century america ?