Pakistani troops confront US troops

Skybird · 09-15-08, 06:52 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7396366.stm

This time it was shooting into the air only, giving tribesmen the time to take defensive positions against the americans.

And next time?

If you want to win Afghanistan, Pakistan must be neutralised to be safe haven for the enemy - at all cost. As long as Pakistan remains to be untouchable, options in Afghanistan are meaningless. It needs to be understood that Pakistan never was a real ally, and today with the unfolding political drama in Islamabad is more an enemy than ever before. Pakistan is not the key for solving problems - it is the cause of the problems.

Tchocky · 09-15-08, 07:05 AM

Only 7 years late, too.

Skybird · 09-15-08, 08:04 AM

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Only 7 years late, too.

One could even say: three decades.

Tchocky · 09-15-08, 08:08 AM

Inside the Beltway memory length tends to reduce to the election cycle :p

Skybird · 09-15-08, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

Inside the Beltway memory length tends to reduce to the election cycle :p

Yes. In politics, the decimal system consists of just four numbers: 1, 2, 3, and "me".

DeepIron · 09-15-08, 08:43 AM

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I don't understand US policy regarding Pakistan.

One word: nukes.

Diopos · 09-15-08, 08:50 AM

Iraq was the primary concern of the US administration. Not Afganistan nor the talibans. I think that the American public deserves an answer on this issue. Well maybe at some point in the future ...........

Tchocky · 09-15-08, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

Inside the Beltway memory length tends to reduce to the election cycle :p

Yes. In politics, the decimal system consists of just four numbers: 1, 2, 3, and "me".

Hehe, never heard that one before

Skybird · 09-15-08, 09:50 AM

No surprise. I just invented it.

August · 09-15-08, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

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Originally Posted by Skybird

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

Inside the Beltway memory length tends to reduce to the election cycle :p

Yes. In politics, the decimal system consists of just four numbers: 1, 2, 3, and "me".

Hehe, never heard that one before

You probably never heard of it because it's not very accurate. Elections are held ever 2 years in this country, not every 4.

Rockstar · 09-15-08, 11:48 AM

Whats your policy with Russia invading Georgia? You do know it was right in your own backyard don't you? You frauds talk a mean game about how the world should be, we have listened to you all squak for years what should be done, if only somebody would listen. Well here you go NATO (thats you) we're listening, you have your chance to show the world just how to deal with aggressor nations, like Russia. Show us the error of our ways and we shall follow your lead.

But alas I know what action you will take NOTHING. You're a frikin' bunch of highminded fakes and frauds crying for peace like a bunch of school girls. Your action for global peace and harmoney is nothing more than sticking your heads in the sand hoping the bad man will just go away. You sit on your arses while Russia wages war for your winter oil supply. And STILL all you can do is armchair quarterback what the U.S. should do in Pakistan?

For cryin out loud Russia just attacked someone what should we do eurogirls? Show us the way please, we need your help. I am sooo ashamed of our actions in Pakistan please show us how it's done.

Ya freaks. LOL LOL LOL at you

Frame57 · 09-15-08, 12:20 PM

Mushy did not keep his end of the bargain. But that will change with either Obama or McCain and has been discussed by both candidates.

09-15-08, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7396366.stm

This time it was shooting into the air only, giving tribesmen the time to take defensive positions against the americans.

And next time?

If you want to win Afghanistan, Pakistan must be neutralised to be safe haven for the enemy - at all cost. As long as Pakistan remains to be untouchable, options in Afghanistan are meaningless. It needs to be understood that Pakistan never was a real ally, and today with the unfolding political drama in Islamabad is more an enemy than ever before. Pakistan is not the key for solving problems - it is the cause of the problems.

I think everyone knew that when we first invaded Afghanistan.

Pakistan says they're against the Taliban.
They also say they're "handling" the situation with them.
They say "Don't come in here - we'll take care of them."
Yet, they are afraid of sending troops into the northern areas.
Any government "afraid" to deal with those people doesn't deserve the right to say "We'll take care of it ourselves." They won't take care of anything.

They want to look tough on the Taliban, yet they don't want the Taliban to destroy them, so they take a hands-off approach, with a wink wink "look, if you don't attack us, we'll leave you along, and just 'say' we're going to deal with you."

I'd say this: Want to keep the USA out of Pakistan in the area where the Taliban is hiding. Fine. Station troops all along the borders to keep us out.

That'll also keep the Taliban out of Afghanistan.

Personally, if I were president, I'd tell them "You've got 30 days to 'take care of it' - otherwise, I'll come in there and fix it FOR you."

Yeah, I'd be condemed and all that. I wouldn't care, either.

Skybird · 09-15-08, 12:43 PM

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Mushy did not keep his end of the bargain. But that will change with either Obama or McCain and has been discussed by both candidates.

They discussed it. Wether they are able or willing to do it - that is something totally different. Talk is cheap, especially when you are on campaign.

Frame57 · 09-15-08, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Frame57

Mushy did not keep his end of the bargain. But that will change with either Obama or McCain and has been discussed by both candidates.

They discussed it. Wether they are able or willing to do it - that is something totally different. Talk is cheap, especially when you are on campaign.

True! It would be senseless to keep pouring money into Pakistan with little or no results.

09-15-08, 06:52 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,725 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Pakistani troops confront US troops http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7396366.stm This time it was shooting into the air only, giving tribesmen the time to take defensive positions against the americans. And next time? If you want to win Afghanistan, Pakistan must be neutralised to be safe haven for the enemy - at all cost. As long as Pakistan remains to be untouchable, options in Afghanistan are meaningless. It needs to be understood that Pakistan never was a real ally, and today with the unfolding political drama in Islamabad is more an enemy than ever before. Pakistan is not the key for solving problems - it is the cause of the problems. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Only 7 years late, too. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Inside the Beltway memory length tends to reduce to the election cycle :p __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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Diopos Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Athens, the original one. Posts: 1,226 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Iraq was the primary concern of the US administration. Not Afganistan nor the talibans. I think that the American public deserves an answer on this issue. Well maybe at some point in the future ........... __________________ - Oh God! They're all over the place! CRASH DIVE!!! - Ehm... we can't honey. We're in the car right now. - What?... er right... Doesn't matter! We'll give it a try anyway!

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,725 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	No surprise. I just invented it. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-15-08, 11:48 AM	#11
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Whats your policy with Russia invading Georgia? You do know it was right in your own backyard don't you? You frauds talk a mean game about how the world should be, we have listened to you all squak for years what should be done, if only somebody would listen. Well here you go NATO (thats you) we're listening, you have your chance to show the world just how to deal with aggressor nations, like Russia. Show us the error of our ways and we shall follow your lead. But alas I know what action you will take NOTHING. You're a frikin' bunch of highminded fakes and frauds crying for peace like a bunch of school girls. Your action for global peace and harmoney is nothing more than sticking your heads in the sand hoping the bad man will just go away. You sit on your arses while Russia wages war for your winter oil supply. And STILL all you can do is armchair quarterback what the U.S. should do in Pakistan? For cryin out loud Russia just attacked someone what should we do eurogirls? Show us the way please, we need your help. I am sooo ashamed of our actions in Pakistan please show us how it's done. Ya freaks. LOL LOL LOL at you

09-15-08, 12:20 PM	#12
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Mushy did not keep his end of the bargain. But that will change with either Obama or McCain and has been discussed by both candidates.